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Beware ... not all Austers are born equal in Australia!
Suggest you check with CASA to determine if a Type Certificate exists for the model you are bringing to Oz. If the TC does not already exist for your model then forget about registering your machine in the VH category.
Suggest you check with CASA to determine if a Type Certificate exists for the model you are bringing to Oz. If the TC does not already exist for your model then forget about registering your machine in the VH category.
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Tip T.. is there a mark that you know of, doesnt fit the Oz bill of Austers ??
There seems to be just about every Mk known to man in the country, so I can't see why it would be a problem On second thoughts... well yes,... with CASA it probably would..!! Life wasnt meant to be too easy.
And Auster Ltd was a recognised OEM.
With the new RAA max wt... a better way to go, no doubt.
Couple of J2s on there already.
There seems to be just about every Mk known to man in the country, so I can't see why it would be a problem On second thoughts... well yes,... with CASA it probably would..!! Life wasnt meant to be too easy.
And Auster Ltd was a recognised OEM.
With the new RAA max wt... a better way to go, no doubt.
Couple of J2s on there already.
Holy Mackerel Tailee,
We must be of the same 'vinatge'......I can resemble all of that.
Maybe the reason I am part owner of both a Tiger and a Chippy......Both with the 'upside down' engines.....
(Fill The Oil and Check the fuel, son.....)
We must be of the same 'vinatge'......I can resemble all of that.
Maybe the reason I am part owner of both a Tiger and a Chippy......Both with the 'upside down' engines.....
(Fill The Oil and Check the fuel, son.....)
tiptanks,
And which Auster hasn't already been on the VH- register. Most Australian ex-RAF Chipmunks never had a Type Certificate, we got around that one, post 1998. There are quite a few aircraft around from before the days the Type Certificate (or equivalent) was invented.
Where there's a will (or bribery and corruption), there's a way.
I never did understand why DCA used to get their knickers in a twist about the J5F (short wing) --- does anybody remember/know ??
Had my first genuine engine failure in an Auster Autocar, double mag failure --- two different reasons, within about 15 minutes, fortunately the second one was just after touchdown ---- the CFI took a lot of convincing that the problem wasn't a lack of motion lotion.
Wonderful chap who checked me out on Austers originally, on completion, made the following comment (to be said in a very posh RAF Ossiffers voice):
"My dear young fellow (it was along time ago), you realise, I suppose, that the Auster will never replace the aeroplane."
Wing Commander Gordon Carey, RAF, now long gone, CFI of the Royal Bengal Flying Club from 1934 to 1939, when he returned to the RAF. The kind of bloke that made certain flying was fun, even when it was chasing Me109s --- nothing seemed to fazer him, he was over 70 when I first made his acquaintance ---- what a ripper of a bloke.
LowNSlow,
Have no fear, there will be plenty of people to help you.
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Tootle pip!!
And which Auster hasn't already been on the VH- register. Most Australian ex-RAF Chipmunks never had a Type Certificate, we got around that one, post 1998. There are quite a few aircraft around from before the days the Type Certificate (or equivalent) was invented.
Where there's a will (or bribery and corruption), there's a way.
I never did understand why DCA used to get their knickers in a twist about the J5F (short wing) --- does anybody remember/know ??
Had my first genuine engine failure in an Auster Autocar, double mag failure --- two different reasons, within about 15 minutes, fortunately the second one was just after touchdown ---- the CFI took a lot of convincing that the problem wasn't a lack of motion lotion.
Wonderful chap who checked me out on Austers originally, on completion, made the following comment (to be said in a very posh RAF Ossiffers voice):
"My dear young fellow (it was along time ago), you realise, I suppose, that the Auster will never replace the aeroplane."
Wing Commander Gordon Carey, RAF, now long gone, CFI of the Royal Bengal Flying Club from 1934 to 1939, when he returned to the RAF. The kind of bloke that made certain flying was fun, even when it was chasing Me109s --- nothing seemed to fazer him, he was over 70 when I first made his acquaintance ---- what a ripper of a bloke.
LowNSlow,
Have no fear, there will be plenty of people to help you.
Home - Antique Aeroplane Association of Australia
Tootle pip!!
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Thanks for all the tips gentlemen.
I'll be bringing the J1 over in a box as the engine would be past it's TBO by the end of the flight if I was flying it over!!
Southport is indeed a tad expensive to say the least, hangards there are selling for between $180-$200k!!!!
I'll be bringing the J1 over in a box as the engine would be past it's TBO by the end of the flight if I was flying it over!!
Southport is indeed a tad expensive to say the least, hangards there are selling for between $180-$200k!!!!
LowNSlow,
If you have comprehensive engine records, including oil consumption records, with a bit of luck you will be able to run the engine on condition.
Also have a look on AU eBay, there are several O/H Gipsy engines that are proving very hard to sell.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Or do you still have the original Cirrus?
If you have comprehensive engine records, including oil consumption records, with a bit of luck you will be able to run the engine on condition.
Also have a look on AU eBay, there are several O/H Gipsy engines that are proving very hard to sell.
Tootle pip!!
PS: Or do you still have the original Cirrus?
Thread Starter
LeadSled, she's not at TBO yet but would have been if I flew her over, she's got about 150 hours to run yet on the original Cirrus II.
Oil consumption records are easy, she's been burning about 0.25 litres an hour since 1946!!! Unfortunately there's no approved oil ring mod for the Cirrus as far as I'm aware.
Oil consumption records are easy, she's been burning about 0.25 litres an hour since 1946!!! Unfortunately there's no approved oil ring mod for the Cirrus as far as I'm aware.
LowNSlow,
With those records, running on condition shouldn't be a problem, remember it is only "recommended time between overhaul", not a hard limit --- and that's "modern terminology", reading some of the original manuals makes interesting reading.
EG: Gipsy Major II fuel requirements, quote: " A good grade of motor spirit, well filtered". That back in the days when all petrol was about 60 octane, an before lead became the norm in fuel, initially to increase the octane to about 86 during WWII.
Another one, from the original Gipsy: "------ should obtain a local source of pistons" ----- which is why modified auto pistons are widely used, and that is not a recent development. Clearly, in those days, neither the engine manufacturer nor the regulatory authority (if there was one) were quite so anal about "suspected unapproved parts".
Tootle pip!!
With those records, running on condition shouldn't be a problem, remember it is only "recommended time between overhaul", not a hard limit --- and that's "modern terminology", reading some of the original manuals makes interesting reading.
EG: Gipsy Major II fuel requirements, quote: " A good grade of motor spirit, well filtered". That back in the days when all petrol was about 60 octane, an before lead became the norm in fuel, initially to increase the octane to about 86 during WWII.
Another one, from the original Gipsy: "------ should obtain a local source of pistons" ----- which is why modified auto pistons are widely used, and that is not a recent development. Clearly, in those days, neither the engine manufacturer nor the regulatory authority (if there was one) were quite so anal about "suspected unapproved parts".
Tootle pip!!
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My Auster manual noted "any good STANDARD" grade motor spirit. This of course referring to the only two types of motor fuel being "SUPER and STANDARD".
And as for pommy engineering being an acronym for...RUN I think that myth dates back to about the summer of 1940...!
Heer ist kommen many flugensh*te of das Englander, Ja ?
Ja, Dumkopf,! Achtung Spitfeur... RUN !!!!
And Austers were busy in WW2 as well, but lower and slower.
Heer ist kommen many flugensh*te of das Englander, Ja ?
Ja, Dumkopf,! Achtung Spitfeur... RUN !!!!
And Austers were busy in WW2 as well, but lower and slower.
Frank,
You must have had the new updated post WWII manual?? Such modern aeroplanes, additional complications --- never ends. Whatever happened to KISS.
When the Gipsy first appeared on the scene, I doubt whether multiple grades of petrol had even be thought of.
Tootle pip!!
You must have had the new updated post WWII manual?? Such modern aeroplanes, additional complications --- never ends. Whatever happened to KISS.
When the Gipsy first appeared on the scene, I doubt whether multiple grades of petrol had even be thought of.
Tootle pip!!
