Pilots a little too involved in the Festival
"XXX ... you couldn't wait to get your facts about the incident correct before lashing out could you? but then that's par for the course for you.
Most of the rest of you where pretty close on his tail.
useless bunch of dropkicks."
Suck it up princess. This is a rumor site. Speculation won't change a thing, and it gives us something else to do to while away time other than scratching our nads waiting for the report. Might even be productive and make one or two of us think about things that may not always be obvious from ABOVE..
Still can't see how you could miss a frickn ferris wheel tho...
Most of the rest of you where pretty close on his tail.
useless bunch of dropkicks."
Suck it up princess. This is a rumor site. Speculation won't change a thing, and it gives us something else to do to while away time other than scratching our nads waiting for the report. Might even be productive and make one or two of us think about things that may not always be obvious from ABOVE..
Still can't see how you could miss a frickn ferris wheel tho...
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I have no doubt that this pilot will be facing charges. And a huge bill from the ferris wheel owners and the fair operators.
Smiling and waving at the news camera after being rescued made my blood boil. How dare he put innocent lives in danger and smile and snigger about it. Seeing a fair at the end of the runway should have rung alarm bells!
Go for it RA-Aus and CASA.
Smiling and waving at the news camera after being rescued made my blood boil. How dare he put innocent lives in danger and smile and snigger about it. Seeing a fair at the end of the runway should have rung alarm bells!
Go for it RA-Aus and CASA.
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Pilot In Command means you're responsible for the safe conduct of the flight. Basically the buck stops with you. Accidents happen but aviation never suffers fools lightly, whether it be regs or safety. With airmanship comes common sense!
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One thing is for sure if it had been a GA aircraft I bet there'd be no mud slinging of GA pilots from the RAAus fraternity, most likely because they'd be out flying instead of just talking about it.
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From The Age today. Pretty unusual for the ATSB to be involved in an RA-Aus incident and with no fatalities.
Ultralight pilot 'landed too short'
A pilot attempting to land at an airstrip near a NSW fairground clipped a tree before slamming into a ferris wheel, a witness says.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) and Recreational Aviation Australia are conducting separate investigations into the ultra-light accident on Saturday morning at the fairground at the township of Old Bar, near Taree.
The two men in the ultralight, aged 53 and 32, and a 9-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl on the ferris wheel all survived the crash uninjured.
The president of the Old Bar Beach Festival, Cozette Leonard, said the pilot attempted a landing that was too short of the nearby airstrip before the plane clipped a tree and hit the ferris wheel shortly before 10am (AEST).
"(The pilot) landed too short, he hit a tree, wobbled, pulled out to sea and that's when he crashed into the ferris wheel," Ms Leonard told AAP on Sunday. "It's just a miracle, it could've been worse."
The Cheetah S200 flew into the ride and became entangled in its metal arms more than 10 metres off the ground.
Ms Leonard said more children could have been on the ride if it wasn't about to rain shortly before the crash.
"We're calling it a miracle - I'm going to change the name of the festival to the Miracle Kombi Festival," she said. "It's just a thought. We're very blessed."
The gathering of Kombi vans, which is part of the festival, was not in the direct path of the landing strip, Ms Leonard said.
The plane was performing a fly-in to mark the 80th anniversary of the Old Bar landing strip near the beach.
An ATSB spokesman said its safety investigators and those from Recreational Aviation Australia, which represents flying clubs, would be conducting separate probes into the crash. "They will probably be doing their own investigation and assisting us with ours as well," he told AAP.
"Normally, our investigations are completed within 12 months."
The ferris wheel was closed on Saturday and was in the process of being dismantled on Sunday morning, Ms Leonard said. WorkCover sent an inspector to the site. The fair was moved indoors to Club Old Bar on Sunday because of the rain.
Ultralight pilot 'landed too short'
A pilot attempting to land at an airstrip near a NSW fairground clipped a tree before slamming into a ferris wheel, a witness says.
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) and Recreational Aviation Australia are conducting separate investigations into the ultra-light accident on Saturday morning at the fairground at the township of Old Bar, near Taree.
The two men in the ultralight, aged 53 and 32, and a 9-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl on the ferris wheel all survived the crash uninjured.
The president of the Old Bar Beach Festival, Cozette Leonard, said the pilot attempted a landing that was too short of the nearby airstrip before the plane clipped a tree and hit the ferris wheel shortly before 10am (AEST).
"(The pilot) landed too short, he hit a tree, wobbled, pulled out to sea and that's when he crashed into the ferris wheel," Ms Leonard told AAP on Sunday. "It's just a miracle, it could've been worse."
The Cheetah S200 flew into the ride and became entangled in its metal arms more than 10 metres off the ground.
Ms Leonard said more children could have been on the ride if it wasn't about to rain shortly before the crash.
"We're calling it a miracle - I'm going to change the name of the festival to the Miracle Kombi Festival," she said. "It's just a thought. We're very blessed."
The gathering of Kombi vans, which is part of the festival, was not in the direct path of the landing strip, Ms Leonard said.
The plane was performing a fly-in to mark the 80th anniversary of the Old Bar landing strip near the beach.
An ATSB spokesman said its safety investigators and those from Recreational Aviation Australia, which represents flying clubs, would be conducting separate probes into the crash. "They will probably be doing their own investigation and assisting us with ours as well," he told AAP.
"Normally, our investigations are completed within 12 months."
The ferris wheel was closed on Saturday and was in the process of being dismantled on Sunday morning, Ms Leonard said. WorkCover sent an inspector to the site. The fair was moved indoors to Club Old Bar on Sunday because of the rain.
I dont know what they're smoking up at the kombi festival but Im sure the pilot already said he was trying to take off. Not sure where the crash while landing stories are still circulating.
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Old Bar Festival
Some of the comments on a fellow pilot in this forum are pretty obnoxious and ignorant and obviously made by people who have never made a mistake themselves 
As a RAA and GA pilot I know how these comments are viewed by older, highly experienced and often former GA pilots now flying in the Rec Register.. Could these comments be made by bored Gen Y - low hour CPLs twiddling their thumbs waiting to join one of the Big Three.
Considering what so nearly did happen, this was an extraordinary incident, for its lack of injuries and fatalities
let's all count our lucky stars and try to learn from it.
As a RAA and GA pilot I know how these comments are viewed by older, highly experienced and often former GA pilots now flying in the Rec Register.. Could these comments be made by bored Gen Y - low hour CPLs twiddling their thumbs waiting to join one of the Big Three.
Considering what so nearly did happen, this was an extraordinary incident, for its lack of injuries and fatalities
let's all count our lucky stars and try to learn from it.
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Sorry ChrisJ, I was actually meant to title that previous post with a comment about the landing versus takeoff comment. That article made front webpage of The Age today so you'd think they would have had the story straight by now!
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One thing is for sure if it had been a GA aircraft I bet there'd be no mud slinging of GA pilots from the RAAus fraternity, most likely because they'd be out flying instead of just talking about it.
Couldn't of said it better myself.
One thing is for sure if it had been a GA aircraft I bet there'd be no mud slinging of GA pilots from the RAAus fraternity, most likely because they'd be out flying instead of just talking about it.
Couldn't of said it better myself.
... the recflying forum, for the pedants
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"Clearly you've never visited AUF-prune"
Clearly neither have you... not that any such place exists.
I have very rarely (if ever) heard anyone in Ra bashing Aviation (because that is what it is whether Ra or GA... just Aviation) in conversation or online.
Clearly neither have you... not that any such place exists.
I have very rarely (if ever) heard anyone in Ra bashing Aviation (because that is what it is whether Ra or GA... just Aviation) in conversation or online.
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Clearly not, the AUF hasnt existed for years!
For something such as this to occur there has been failure to meet the very regulation barriers there to protect us. That's why there are regs regarding obstacle clearance limits etc. Id like to bet not one of us has ever flown without mistake ever and they do happen, however we must be forever vigilant against Sod as if it can happen it will. Do all that you can to reduce your risk. This applies to all forms of flying, we've all seen pictures such as this but also larger aircraft in ungainly poses for the same reason. This is why CRM and risk management human factors is becoming such a big item.
For something such as this to occur there has been failure to meet the very regulation barriers there to protect us. That's why there are regs regarding obstacle clearance limits etc. Id like to bet not one of us has ever flown without mistake ever and they do happen, however we must be forever vigilant against Sod as if it can happen it will. Do all that you can to reduce your risk. This applies to all forms of flying, we've all seen pictures such as this but also larger aircraft in ungainly poses for the same reason. This is why CRM and risk management human factors is becoming such a big item.
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This is why CRM and risk management human factors is becoming such a big item.
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Clearly the couple of posters below you have not joined the dots.
That site is extraordinary to say the least...... AUF-prune
That almost gets a POTY award.
Clearly the couple of posters below you have not joined the dots.
That site is extraordinary to say the least...... AUF-prune
That almost gets a POTY award.
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[Don't pick on XXX Fencehopper, he's just going through withdrawal after his failure in standing as a candidate for Board Member of RAAus.]
just like to thank those RAAus members from down there that DID NOT vote for XXX. That sort of mentality we are trying to rid as it is.
Also to add that may put some perspective to some of the dum stupid remarks
how many croppies have been cleaned up by wires trees and fences that they already knew were there? Sometimes cockpit workload just overrides the outside world.
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just like to thank those RAAus members from down there that DID NOT vote for XXX. That sort of mentality we are trying to rid as it is.
Also to add that may put some perspective to some of the dum stupid remarks
how many croppies have been cleaned up by wires trees and fences that they already knew were there? Sometimes cockpit workload just overrides the outside world.
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just like to thank those RAAus members from down there that DID NOT vote for XXX. That sort of mentality we are trying to rid as it is.
You need to let go of whatever it is that you are holding onto.
FYI - there are 41 replies to the thread on AUF-Prune about the Angel Flight that crashed north-west of Melbourne. Pot calling the kettle black I hear?