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Old 29th Aug 2011, 00:17
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QLd RFDS

Good to read that the QLD section of the RFDS are adding 3 new planes to their fleet for better coverage, 3 new TWIN ENGINED airframes by BeechLuv it:-)

Now I wonder why they didn't go for the cough cough PC



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PC = Politically correct (cheap).

Understand they have the same medical fitout as the most recent SE Section aircraft.
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Hey how's it going there 'HH'? getting ready for a real mans plane? The 350?

I like 'cheap'. Cheap fish & chips, cheap petrol, cheap booze, cheap women(well women are never actually cheap!) cheap chockies but NEVER a cheap plane!


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but NEVER a cheap plane!
Haha, what type is it you fly again?

PS: I can't be counted amongst the 'real men' I'm not allowed near the thing!
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350's like SE section have would have been nice for when summer comes around with Tempo and Inter's
Wouldn't have had to worry about that so much with a, with a ah, ehm..., PC!
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but NEVER a cheap plane
Is there much difference between the price of a new PC12 and a new B200?
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TKFS.....and Morno (coz I know what you are thinking.....

You mean wx like this..........yes morno...yes....

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PC12 handles that wx just as well as the B200 or B350.
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......'handling' the WX is not the issue handling it with only one fan to keep everyone cool is another matter! Actually when ya think about it losing yr ONLY eng in a TS might be advantageous, good chance you will get a strong updraft & go upwards rather than downwards

'cheap' has nufin' to do with the cost of a PC, am sure they are an expensive piece of kit cheap was more they only spent enuf bucks for one donk!

Gee 'jaba' I hopes ya weren't flyin' around in that drizzly looking day buddy

'HH' what type do I fly? Well lets say it's still got two donks, my main criteria:-)

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Plastic Crap 12........Maybe you should spend some time in the back with the tail wagging all over the bloody sky. The worse the wx, the worse the wag. Only aircraft I have EVER felt nauseous in. B200 waaay better in the back (and the front too for that matter).
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..............hey 'eocvictim' it ain't about performance or economy it's about safety, safety in numbers as they say Nice Porsche & they don't actually look that much different:-)

BTW could you get a bigger file size added here? I had to open my study door to see the rear end of the cars
'Al Fent' I never did get to sit down the back of a PC but can imagine it's a tail wagger like the other mongrel airframe that wonders all over the sky, the V35....ugly too, like it's missin' something


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How old is the design of the 737? Just for comparison.
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Ahh Wally... of all people to start a thread such as this!!

Still patiently waiting for the stats that show a kingair is safer than a PC12.

In FNQ, where Ive not been but assume is a nice combination of remoteness and mountainous terrain, then perhaps the King Air is a better choice.

Down here where is mostly flat and there are landing sites everywhere, the advantages of the PC12 well and truly take over!
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....ahhh come on 'glekichi' where's yr SOH? This topic always creates a good spirited debate & the Mods leave us alone 'cause it don't have the 'Q' letter in the subject or CASA (same thing)

Stats are for the uninformed, those that can't make up their own minds thru experience & observations I like 2 donks 'cause I reckon it's safer, that's just me I only need to think about No 1 (me) not anyone else

I guess the part that I am more 'pushing' here for want of a better work is the fact that the QLD section chose the good 'ole Becch over the PC for their new airframes(even though they operate both types anyway), they could have chosen the more dangerous option but they didn't, I wonder why?

'TQ' yeah I think I did say that & still do in most cases. As for which I'd rather have? Too me that's a no brainer. God man I'd like to hear you say that when at night in cloud over hilly terrain & yr ONLY engine is making funny noises!


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Old 30th Aug 2011, 23:56
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it ain't about performance or economy it's about safety
I seem to remember you stating in a thread some time ago that TCAS in the B200 was a waste of time.

I'd take the TCAS over another engine any day of the week.
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PC12 Days Over?

I hear a rumour that WA Section is done with Pilatus and is about to go back to KingAir!!!!! This overheard at Perth recently. Your heard it here first on PPrune. Time will tell.

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Hmmmmmmmm.....Word on the street is, we,ve just ordered 4 more PC12NG's to replace the old Classics.....BUT I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK!
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God man I'd like to hear you say that when at night in cloud over hilly terrain & yr ONLY engine is making funny noises!
Hasn't happened yet, although it is a Pratt....not a Continental.

The TCAS, on the other hand, has been beneficial on a few occasions. Normally aircraft departing small country strips who either don't make a departure report, or are experiencing radio problems. I'm just glad they were transponder equipped.

This overheard at Perth recently
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Aviation Art PC 12

Acrylic on stretched canvas 30cm x 60cm. VH-OWR

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You've done a great job of capturing the Port Hedland sunset.

(Romeo looks pretty good too.)

An excellent Christmas present for Wally maybe?
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