$65k going rate for piston twin drivers . . .
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A let down in IMC was flown by dangling a wire with a lead sinker underneath. Once it snapped, you knew to descend no further
And I thought that watch I threw out was broken!
But seriously folks.....
On subject; Anyone know what AFAP designate as the award rate for Piston Twin Pilots? Off the top of my head I would think that $65k would be somewhere near the mark but I stand by to be corrected.
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Three years ago GA Award for IFR twin drivers was around $43K. Don't think it would be around $65K now, but, could easily be wrong.
Just checked the award - not much change - just over $45K for a C402/PA31 driver (first year).
Why do they make the award so bleedin' hard to read.
Just checked the award - not much change - just over $45K for a C402/PA31 driver (first year).
Why do they make the award so bleedin' hard to read.
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Have a look for yourselves...2010 Pilots Award
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I was waiting for one to say he flew purely by heading and time
You're all as soft as Nannas scones 
I had to sweep the hangar till 3am, go to bed at 1am and get up to work at 5am. I only got half an hours sleep by going to bed at 6am... Then I had to walk 30 Kays to the airstrip in the rain during 45 degree heat in the middle of the wet.
I couldn't afford shoes back then, so I did it with old oil rags wrapped around my feet.
Of course we hand swung our props to start the engines back then. It was pretty difficult because it was so damn cold. Our hands would get stuck to the metal propellers and the engines would be just about seized because the oil was so thick!
Of course because we couldn't afford gloves you had to be careful of getting
splinters from the stone chips on the wooden propellers.
After flying 16 hours in a 5 hour duty period working 13 hours straight, we'd have to walk the 50 kays in the freezing rain in the middle of winter to get home.
You lot have got it so easy these days
I had to sweep the hangar till 3am, go to bed at 1am and get up to work at 5am. I only got half an hours sleep by going to bed at 6am... Then I had to walk 30 Kays to the airstrip in the rain during 45 degree heat in the middle of the wet.
I couldn't afford shoes back then, so I did it with old oil rags wrapped around my feet.
Of course we hand swung our props to start the engines back then. It was pretty difficult because it was so damn cold. Our hands would get stuck to the metal propellers and the engines would be just about seized because the oil was so thick!
Of course because we couldn't afford gloves you had to be careful of getting
splinters from the stone chips on the wooden propellers.
After flying 16 hours in a 5 hour duty period working 13 hours straight, we'd have to walk the 50 kays in the freezing rain in the middle of winter to get home.
You lot have got it so easy these days
Looxury, we had to carve our props out of ole firewood...
It was so cold for us in the middle of summer we had to walk around in our underwear just to keep a little less warm. It certainly didn't help when it began to snow!
Grandpa Aerotart
Fooking loogshury!!!
Firewood and snow?..no ski resorts when I were a lad. Lived in tree house wit nought but betel nut breakfast, lunch and dinner...on special occasions we might have Lime to go with it.
Fell out of the tree 2 hours before we went to bed and battled 69ks UNARMED through fierce headhunters to fly 87 sectors in 22 stick hrs/day 8 days a week.
You tell youngans these days and they just don't believe you.
Firewood and snow?..no ski resorts when I were a lad. Lived in tree house wit nought but betel nut breakfast, lunch and dinner...on special occasions we might have Lime to go with it.
Fell out of the tree 2 hours before we went to bed and battled 69ks UNARMED through fierce headhunters to fly 87 sectors in 22 stick hrs/day 8 days a week.
You tell youngans these days and they just don't believe you.
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Ks? kays? In my day we walked in miles and we wos thankful!
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TGG its YOU who had it soft, ya big girls blouse!
We had to make OUR own brooms out of spinifex for hangar
sweeping, using nothing but string and high-speed tape!
And you....WALKED to the airport? God we DREAMT of being
able to walk to the airport! In the Wet season we had to row
the old Company's leaky boat 20 miles out to the strip, and if
we had enough old pilot shirts we would sew 'em together to
have the luxury of a sail!
You had oil rags? Jeez what we wouldnt've given for oil rags!
All we had were our old pairs of jocks!
Worked 13 hours straight? Your Company must've thought the
sun shines out of your arse lad! We had 20 hour days and the
remaining 4 hours were counted towards a full day off every 5
days (5x4=24). The only real day off we got was being herded
into the hangar once a week to do 50 hourlies on the Aztrucks!
We had to make OUR own brooms out of spinifex for hangar
sweeping, using nothing but string and high-speed tape!
And you....WALKED to the airport? God we DREAMT of being
able to walk to the airport! In the Wet season we had to row
the old Company's leaky boat 20 miles out to the strip, and if
we had enough old pilot shirts we would sew 'em together to
have the luxury of a sail!
You had oil rags? Jeez what we wouldnt've given for oil rags!
All we had were our old pairs of jocks!
Worked 13 hours straight? Your Company must've thought the
sun shines out of your arse lad! We had 20 hour days and the
remaining 4 hours were counted towards a full day off every 5
days (5x4=24). The only real day off we got was being herded
into the hangar once a week to do 50 hourlies on the Aztrucks!
Grandpa Aerotart
You had string and high speed tape?
And wot we wouldn't have given for JOCKS!!!
We woulda sold our sisters....if we had them...for jocks.
You lucky, LUCKY bastard.
ROFLMAO
And wot we wouldn't have given for JOCKS!!!
We woulda sold our sisters....if we had them...for jocks.
You lucky, LUCKY bastard.
ROFLMAO
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High speed tape? In Chucks day I believe flying involved molten wax and feathers...
In the Wet season we had to row
the old Company's leaky boat 20 miles out to the strip, and if
we had enough old pilot shirts we would sew 'em together to have the luxury of a sail
the old Company's leaky boat 20 miles out to the strip, and if
we had enough old pilot shirts we would sew 'em together to have the luxury of a sail
We had to swim 50 miles to work in the pouring rain, dodging crocodiles just to get to the strip.
The sun was beating down, burning our backs in the freezing water. It took so long to swim this great distance we had to leave before the sun rose just to get there on time!
I flew a C206 doing meatbombing that had the same instruments as that 172 minus the GPS and VOR and such, it was such a DOG!!
And guys...you have me in stitches, that some funny stuff you got in those pipes!!
And guys...you have me in stitches, that some funny stuff you got in those pipes!!
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By gum! I haven't heard of anything so funny since the night at the Club Dero when a Talair Pilot told me that he saw ######## try to
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Walk to the airstrip?? I had to sleep in a hut in a corner of the field that was so cruddy even the local raskols turned their noses up at it. They said it stank too much even for them!
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Walk to the airstrip?? I had to sleep in a hut in a corner of the field that was so cruddy even the local raskols turned their noses up at it. They said it stank too much even for them!
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Whats the go with the percentages quoted in the award ? for example :
"A pilot (excluding Fokker-28 pilots) flying a turbo jet aircraft will be paid 1280% of the standard rate per annum."
"A pilot (excluding Fokker-28 pilots) flying a turbo jet aircraft will be paid 1280% of the standard rate per annum."
Aero, keep reading the award, it makes reference to how the "standard rate" is to be worked out then applied.
One of the best reads here I've had here in a long while, thanks you guys for the laugh. I wish the crew at Alice all the best, the three and a half years I was in Central Australia were some of the best flying I ever got to enjoy. It is of great interest Chartair offer East Coast turbine driver wages to fly a piston. Good on them for doing so, however I must admit that with the way rents are there in Alice now they had to offer those dollars to make it work.
Regards,
OpsN.
One of the best reads here I've had here in a long while, thanks you guys for the laugh. I wish the crew at Alice all the best, the three and a half years I was in Central Australia were some of the best flying I ever got to enjoy. It is of great interest Chartair offer East Coast turbine driver wages to fly a piston. Good on them for doing so, however I must admit that with the way rents are there in Alice now they had to offer those dollars to make it work.
Regards,
OpsN.
