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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 08:30
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One advantage of the Bristol over the DC-3, was with the autofeather it could depart with a much reduced take-off visibilty.

Didn't the Bristol Freighter originally get certified in Australia to operate single-pilot and carried a radio operater?

Somebody must have a copy and can scan in, of the Air Safety Digest with the photos of the Bristol Freighters operating the last few flights.

A few more possibilities for Aye Ess,

Ansett/TNT B707,

Murray Valley Airlines Shorts S360,

Bandeirante (Bassair, Air Tasmania, Schuttle Airlines)

Avcentres Aerostars,

Ted Rudges Doves,

Gulfstream VH-FLO

Executive Airlines Aerocommanders when they carried the newspaper to YSCB and last but not least,

The MU-2.
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Old 3rd Aug 2011, 11:20
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Phew !!! Stationair....you are a wealth of knowledge. I'll add those suggestions to my 'must paint' list. Thanks.
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No doubt after flying a Bristol Freighter across Bass Strait in the middle of winter, the skipper would have rolled a cigarette on his way across the car park to his old Holden. Jumped in pulled the choke out, pumped the acclerator a few times and the old 186 would have roared to life, engaged first on the column shift and drove off into the sunrise, using the mark 1 back of the hand demister to clear a spot to peer out the windscreen, while gently touching the brakes approaching the intersection, after all don't want to wear out the newly purchased retreads!
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And been disgusted that he had to get fuel at the local Ampol,but it was now up to 14c/litre !!!
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Retreads!......................What............he's sent the missus out to work again!

Seriously, I take my hat off to those who flew Bristols and 3s' across the ditch in the middle of winter. Its bad enough now but with nothing but an NDB with all its associated weaknesses, especially at night, or, at best, a VAR they really had their work cut out for them.
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 07:25
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14 cents a litre, and the guy would have checked your tyres, checked under the bonnet and washed your windscreen!
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 07:35
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and you wouldn't need a voucher from the corner grocer.
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 12:59
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S8 - Small correction to the Bristol - it wasn't Auto Feather but Auto Pitch Coarsening that was fitted - bit like an earlier version of the NTS system in TPE 331 turbo props. Two Pitot like tubes were fitted to each wing - one in the prop thrust area and the other near the wing tip. The system was designed to recognise a change in the thrust from a failing engine compared with the free air flow detected by the pitot near the wing tip. If an engine failed, the result was that the failing engine prop was driven towards feather, but the pilot would have to carry out the proper identification to complete the feathering action. It did not qualify as an auto feather system.
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 13:50
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What about??

When the large 'luxury' freighters i.e Argosy and DC9 were running around, worrying about the odd (and there were a few) fuel leak, there was a small army of dedicated real freight dogs.

P 166 Sydney - Gove - Sydney: 140 TAS 14 hour shift, no auto pilot, single pilot, ADF + 200 mcs DME.

BN 3 - Sydney - Quirindi - Perth - Adelaide - Melbourne Launceston - Sydney.

TS 600 Sydney - Charlieville - Isa - Darwin and return.

The list is endless, not glamorous and probably not worth the acrylic - but they were there, same ramp, same weather without aircon, co pilot, ground power, de ice and or radar,

Where are their pictures then ??. Bloody Argosy - girls ship.

Selah.
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 21:38
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Kharon Those are worthy of their own thread
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 22:42
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Too many levers.....
http://www.philwieland.com/postcard/r/d7067.jpg

Decent fuselage space though:
http://ukmamsoba.org/mystery_022709.jpg

Excellent and very detailed IPEC history for those interested (with Argosy photos!):
http://www.tollipec.com.au/ipec_history.pdf


http://aussieairliners.org/argosy/vh-bba/1920.027l.jpg
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Old 19th Aug 2011, 22:56
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Too many levers???
Now the Argosy had been cleaned up from the mess its precessor the Viscount presented.


What a Pommy abomination this thing is.

CENTAURUS your comment in the other thread is right... an endorsed pilot would have trouble here when hands were flying about
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Old 20th Aug 2011, 12:37
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....flying a Bristol Freighter across Bass Strait in the middle of winter,
I remember when one of 'em went in the Strait - SJQ.



Pilot and radio op both killed. Poor buggers.
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