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Old 13th Feb 2024, 22:05
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Back in the early nineties Jim Hazelton endorsed me on old AMG (B80). What a delightful aircraft that was. As we settled in prior to departure Jim looked around and commented that this was the aircraft (previously an Air Ambulance) that transported him from Orange to Sydney (after he had suffered an aortal aneurysm). Wonderful man, great memories.
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I think CFI was registered to Civils before 68 as I flew it for Civils on 14/2/67.
I had been flying DHQ for Muir Aviation.
Flew CFD on 16/2/67 and agree it was one nicely equipped Queenair.
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Old 14th Feb 2024, 18:13
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You're correct, I'd mistakenly used a photo caption date. VH-CFI was first registered on 22.6.1965 and (if I'd bothered to look) appears in my logbook first in December 1966!
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Old 14th Feb 2024, 20:01
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What model was the pick of the Queenair’s to fly?

Must have been an interesting place in the 60’s at the Beechcraft factory, with Beech 18’s, Queenairs, B99 and B90 rolling down the production line.
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We had a few of them over the years both original engines and the Excalibur conversion. I found the A80 and B80 to be the nicest to fly with the Excalibur's being like flying a big Baron.



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Old 17th Feb 2024, 18:42
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the Excalibur's being like flying a big Baron.
Yes, but did they make the same wonderful noise (music)?
Nice photos, btw.
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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 04:51
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Who operated VH-RUU, is was used to do aerial photography at various mine sites in the mid 80's.

Civil Flying Services Moorabbin still had a Queenair on charter work in 1987, Jock Gardener used to fly it.

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In my many moves, I’ve lost my all early logbooks so can’t even remember the registration but I flew a Queenair on mapping photography missions for the Army, had a very pleasant 4 months in Vanuatu in the winter of 1984. The outfit I worked for was based in Essendon and had two of these beauties set up with Wild RC-10 cameras.

Agreed, it was a proper gentleman’s aeroplane. Although high altitude performance was not its forte… I recall the struggle to get to FL200.

Has Beechcraft ever made any aeroplanes which were not joys to fly.?
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Some info here CLX. Don't know how accurate it is?
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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 08:25
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Went through my old PNG Album, hoping to find if I had taken any photos of the two Queenairs that Douglas Airways once operated. Long before I got there, of course. One was, for the entire time I was with Dz, sitting in the maintenance hangar supposedly almost 'out of a major inspection.' Unfortunately, no piccy of it!

This is the only photo I have of 'the other one.' I believe that after Dz went bagarup it was cut up for scrap, along with a GAF Nomad which was in a similar condition.

I have no idea what happened to the 'Hangar Queen.'


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Old 23rd Feb 2024, 11:59
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Who operated VH-RUU, is was used to do aerial photography at various mine sites in the mid 80's.
UnionAir operated RUU and FWG on contract to the Army from the late 60s through the 80s.
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Don't want to tar all Twin Bananas with the same brush as the only one I flew was VH-CLO which Jetair acquired from Connellans and it was a horrible machine. Loved the Baron, Queenair and Bonanza though.
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Old 11th Apr 2024, 08:36
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So are there any Queenairs still flying in Australia?
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[QUOTE..,Has Beechcraft ever made any aeroplanes which were not joys to fly.?[/QUOTE]

You’ve obviously never been forced to fly a pressurized Baron.
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Originally Posted by lucille
Has Beechcraft ever made any aeroplanes which were not joys to fly.?
Musketeer/Sundowner ?
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Originally Posted by Peter Fanelli
Musketeer/Sundowner ?
learned to fly in 19s with a 180 hp upgrade. (And a few 23s)
Wonderful trainer. It was a pussycat until one did something stupid, at which point it stalled and broke into a real spin if you didn’t do something correct quickly.
Early on in training, we did recoveries from fully developed spins because if one tried a “Cessna recovery”, one would end up a smoking hole in the ground.
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Originally Posted by 421dog
[QUOTE..,Has Beechcraft ever made any aeroplanes which were not joys to fly.?
You’ve obviously never been forced to fly a pressurized Baron.[/QUOTE]

True.

But it’s a Baron, the 58 was a delight to fly, how different can the pressurised variant be?
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Old 15th Apr 2024, 11:58
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I think the Queenair edges out the Baron in the ‘nice to fly’ stakes…just.
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Old 15th Apr 2024, 19:56
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You’ve obviously never been forced to fly a pressurized Baron.
I'm curious, would you care to expand on that? Compared to what other pressurized light twin?
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Originally Posted by Dora-9
I'm curious, would you care to expand on that? Compared to what other pressurized light twin?
Barons started out with a max gross of around 4200#. They progressed in a non pressurized form to the point that with the G 58 and 58tc you’re up around 5800#, but that limited one with 6 pax to around 58 gallons and an hour with reserves. Miraculously, the B58-P got to 6200#, but for some reason, the wings started falling off, and they life-limited the airframe to 10K hrs. From personal experience, with full fuel, (the one I’m driving while my 421 is still waiting for a new engine) it flies like a rock with me and the clothing and gear it takes me to exist in a hotel as a professional for a couple of weeks.
It is obviously overweight, despite being ok “by the book”
I love my 421. It is a consummate aircraft. I really like other beech twins (even the 18s and T-Bones {gotta like three in the front} ) but 55s, unpressurized B58s and even duchess’ are really nice planes.
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