Flight Planning Across Magnetic Variations
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Flight Planning Across Magnetic Variations
Hi Guys,
Doing up a flight plan from the sunshine coast to rockhampton, and the plan goes across several isogonic (magnetic variation) lines. It starts of about 11 Deg East here on the coast and ends up 9.5 at rocky. just wondering how I build this change in the variation into my flight plan? is it really needed?
Thanks guys, this will be my longest trip to date....any advice on getting into/out of rocky would be appreciated! also, anyone know who to contact re parking and fuel both at rocky and bundaberg?
Cheers!
Doing up a flight plan from the sunshine coast to rockhampton, and the plan goes across several isogonic (magnetic variation) lines. It starts of about 11 Deg East here on the coast and ends up 9.5 at rocky. just wondering how I build this change in the variation into my flight plan? is it really needed?
Thanks guys, this will be my longest trip to date....any advice on getting into/out of rocky would be appreciated! also, anyone know who to contact re parking and fuel both at rocky and bundaberg?
Cheers!
Break the flight up into stages and apply as required, or average it for the entire trip.
Let's also be honest, if you can fly VFR Nav plus or minus 1.5 degree you're doing better than me with an approved navigation system
Let's also be honest, if you can fly VFR Nav plus or minus 1.5 degree you're doing better than me with an approved navigation system
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Can you hold your heading to within +/- 1.5 degrees?
That kind of variation difference will not cause you any dramas, after all the track you derive will be corrected for wind based on a guess by the weather-man which you will then set onto an instrument which itself is progressively becoming inaccurate. Get my drift? (no pun intended)
That kind of variation difference will not cause you any dramas, after all the track you derive will be corrected for wind based on a guess by the weather-man which you will then set onto an instrument which itself is progressively becoming inaccurate. Get my drift? (no pun intended)
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Better do a great circle and rhumb line track- this sounds serious...
on another note just do an average the difference will be to small to fly - this includes transcontinental
Or just get a gps and champagne flight planner ... What's a WAC??
on another note just do an average the difference will be to small to fly - this includes transcontinental
Or just get a gps and champagne flight planner ... What's a WAC??
The main point is you are aware of the variation change and thinking about it. In practice it does not matter to much. Just ask how many people allow for the compass deviation and error?
Heading north on your proposed track, just keep the sea on your right and the land on your left. Can't go wrong.
Now if you think YOU need to be concerned about variation, the check out the isogonals on this map!
Now if you think YOU need to be concerned about variation, the check out the isogonals on this map!
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Spilt the difference between the start and finish and apply that to all legs, I'd use 10 as a nice round figure. As others have said if you can fly that accurately, you are doing better than the rest of us.
Cheers, HH.
Cheers, HH.
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Now you know how to get there, here's the go on the destinations.
Rocky is Class D. No difference in procedures to YSBU. Just have a VTC and you will be OK.
Parking and access is crap. Council is so supportive of GA they would prefer you went elsewhere
You need a swipe card to get access to the GA, very handy if you are after hours.
Bundy just a plain old CTAF r. Plenty of parking and a coded access gate. Nice and simple like it should be.
Have a great trip.
PS - Check Notams on the restricted areas as the military are ramping up for some fun and games.
Have fun.
Now you know how to get there, here's the go on the destinations.
Rocky is Class D. No difference in procedures to YSBU. Just have a VTC and you will be OK.
Parking and access is crap. Council is so supportive of GA they would prefer you went elsewhere
You need a swipe card to get access to the GA, very handy if you are after hours.
Bundy just a plain old CTAF r. Plenty of parking and a coded access gate. Nice and simple like it should be.
Have a great trip.
PS - Check Notams on the restricted areas as the military are ramping up for some fun and games.
Have fun.
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The parking in Rocky will only be for 2 or 3 hours around the middle of the day, and mid week. I'm just going up there to inspect some of our properties as they have had work done. I guess i'll just ring the council and hope for the best. With regard to swipe card access is it just a matter of ringing the FBO when I want to get back in?
At Bundy, even though there is plenty of parking I still need to ring the council and work out overnight fees and payment right? Will they just give me a code for the gate then?
Sorry about the really dumb questions, but as a low hour VFR private pilot I haven't done a trip away from home yet....exciting times though! ohh and also - fuel in rocky...I have a BP card but they only have Caltex and Shell. Will they take credit cards?
Cheers guys.
At Bundy, even though there is plenty of parking I still need to ring the council and work out overnight fees and payment right? Will they just give me a code for the gate then?
Sorry about the really dumb questions, but as a low hour VFR private pilot I haven't done a trip away from home yet....exciting times though! ohh and also - fuel in rocky...I have a BP card but they only have Caltex and Shell. Will they take credit cards?
Cheers guys.
JN
No with these two airports (and most, but not all) you can just rock up and expect parking for your trips away. That is a given generally for light aircraft.
Note I say most. Read ERSA and they will generally tell you where prior permission is required. In a light aircraft you should be able to park pretty much at any airport but read ERSA first. ERSA is your friend for planning trips.
Rocky for just a few hours, as long as you have an ASIC, someone will let you in at the aero club or one of the maintenance orgs. Or ring the ARO noted in ERSA.
Bundy again ring the ARO and they will give you the gate code.
Both will bill you automatically. No need to pay as you go.
Most, if not all, Shell bowsers are now Credit Card operated so you will be fine there also.
And not trying to be smart (which PPrune specialises in) - But surely on your navs you had to deal with these sorts of things? Not sure how you can get a PPL without having to park and/or fuel at another airport?
No with these two airports (and most, but not all) you can just rock up and expect parking for your trips away. That is a given generally for light aircraft.
Note I say most. Read ERSA and they will generally tell you where prior permission is required. In a light aircraft you should be able to park pretty much at any airport but read ERSA first. ERSA is your friend for planning trips.
Rocky for just a few hours, as long as you have an ASIC, someone will let you in at the aero club or one of the maintenance orgs. Or ring the ARO noted in ERSA.
Bundy again ring the ARO and they will give you the gate code.
Both will bill you automatically. No need to pay as you go.
Most, if not all, Shell bowsers are now Credit Card operated so you will be fine there also.
And not trying to be smart (which PPrune specialises in) - But surely on your navs you had to deal with these sorts of things? Not sure how you can get a PPL without having to park and/or fuel at another airport?
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Why not use Gladstone for your over night.There's no landing fee and no parking fee for less than 5 days. If you're lucky you might even find some hangar bum that will give you a lift to town. Book a motel as many days in advance as possible as the LNG people are using a lot of them at the moment.There's a fair bit to see around ygla too if you have the time.
Cheers RA
Cheers RA
If I were you, I'd be heading somewhere interesting further North. Horn island is a nice part of the world.
If the refueler was not a she, she would have got a smack in the mouth years ago.
The most impatient, aggressive and obnoxious dill going around.
And shes a Kiwi
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And shes a Kiwi
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GG, Bring give them a heads up and bring them a chocolate or something nice and they will usally be alright. They don't really like people turning up out of nowhere.
esreverlluf I'll raise you one. I could go one better, but it's all I've got on my 'puter at the moment...
And who can tell me the proper technical name for the green lines....?
And who can tell me the proper technical name for the green lines....?
