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Old 6th Jun 2011, 06:34
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ChartAir Precautionary Landing Stuart Highway

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A small plane has taken off from the Stuart Highway and flown to Alice Springs after an emergency landing this morning.
Pilot praised for emergency outback landing - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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But only after they told their passengers to call their loved ones
 
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Mmmm.........so it had a problem producing enough power and carried out a forced landing........then the aircraft is flown back to Alice Springs to investigate why there was a power problem.
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Maybe Carby Icing ?????
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Plane lands in scrub, pilot praised | News | NT News | Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia | ntnews.com.au


"The plane was examined and a fuel problem attended to before it was flown back to the airport a short time later."
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Maybe Carby Icing ?????
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Hasselhof,

I am with you on this. Since when can a fuel injected IO-520 suffer from Carb Icing. I bet there was a fuel problem that was "attended" to. I won't speculate, as many do, and regardless of the problem I congratulate the pilot for accepting there was a problem and handling it in a professional manner. As they say it is far better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than being in the air and wishing you were on the ground. If the only damage on the day was a bit of pride then it is a fantastic result.

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Sounds like a flameout...wasn't quick enough with the EPL?
 
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Bug nests in the fuel tank vents?
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Hey Groggy

I have to admit, I feel bad. When carby ice was mentioned there wasn't actually any reference to a C210, just a single engine Cessna so carby ice could have been a possibility. I guess I shouldn't expect everyone to know the Chartair fleet. But you are correct, the picture in the second article shows a C210.

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If she landed in the scrub only 200m from the highway, it begs the question why she didn't opt to land on the highway? It's not that busy with cars is it?
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Judging by T28Ds other posts, I am fairly sure he/she was firmly tongue-in-cheek when suggesting Carby Ice as the culprit!
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I'm not surprised she landed in the scrub.

For engine outs:

I've always considered a road to be the LAST place to land during Day VFR.
I've always considered a road to be the FIRST place to land during NVFR.
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Triple x-ray:
I've always considered a road to be the LAST place to land during Day VFR
What's your rationale for that if you don't mind me asking (just curious)?
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Wasn't the same chick who flew from Alice with the tow hitch still attached to the nose wheel?

Even managed to retract and extend the gear completely oblivious to what was attached.

Funniest thing I have ever seen as she taxied in. Although it could have ended in tears. I often wonder if the CP got a phone call that night

Another reason why they should stay in the kitchen hey fellas
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I've always considered a road to be the LAST place to land during Day VFR.
Interesting perspective XXX - I've been on more than a few roads in my time!

I remember reading in the Crash Comic (the real one) many years ago about a lightie with an engine problem trying to land in a tight paddock - clipped trees and speared in - right beside a perfectly usable road where length was not an issue.

I realise that powerlines can be an issue adjacent to roads, but that can generally be sorted with a good look on the way down.

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Roads are a mixed bag

east coast = bad idea due power lines and traffic.
Alice springs = good idea, no power lines, little traffic and long straight stretches.

Heard ATC recommend a road near the rock today to a pilot having trouble maintaining VMC.
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Valid point thanks Timo.... and good call DR. East coast, down south, far better options off-road, but sure, inland, the roads would be a better option.

QSK, had my fair share of out landings and often the road is very skinny, has white posts, power-lines, a lot of camber, potholes, not to mention the occasional car and truck.
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XXX... We must of had the same Instructor???? It was drumbed into me never ever ever land on roads for the same reasons you mentioned!!!!!
Went straight out the window 5 years later after an engine failure in central NSW, I picked a nice big flat field (looked ok from 5000ft) only to change to a road at about 500 due to it being ploughed. Road was gravel, skinny, with lots of camber and I thought f#$k camber as I flared!!!!!!! At the end of the day it really was a no brainer, but it's amasing how hard it is to change your mindset from what you have been taught from day 1.
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Back in 2008 the same company had a B58 land on the road due to fuel issues. ie; not enough to get back to Alice. Hopefully not the same issue again.
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