Trainee pilot black-out over Adelaide
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Not a new event. There was a King Air enroute Norfolk to Sydney where the pilot passed out and a pax with a bit knowledge kept things ticking over. Pilot regained conciousness approaching SYD and completed the landing.
Memory seems to recall the loss of a Dove in WA many years ago for similar reasons. One case was caused by the pilot eating a half warm pie for lunch (food poisoning), so not always down to underlying medical issues. And there is dehydration as well.
Memory seems to recall the loss of a Dove in WA many years ago for similar reasons. One case was caused by the pilot eating a half warm pie for lunch (food poisoning), so not always down to underlying medical issues. And there is dehydration as well.
And an aeromed Kingair in NSW or QLD where the pilot blacked out from pressure in his guts from something like eating too much fibre... It's on the ATSB website.
And the FA18 eastbound from TN - can't remember if that was 02 related though.
And don't forget, some people can get hypoxic at low altitudes. I know of one engineer who got hypoxic at 7000' cabin alt.
And the FA18 eastbound from TN - can't remember if that was 02 related though.
And don't forget, some people can get hypoxic at low altitudes. I know of one engineer who got hypoxic at 7000' cabin alt.
When I was doing avmed, the hornet crash was brought up. Someone feel free to jump in and correct me, but the pilot was flying without his oxygen mask and failed to set a valve correctly essentially exposing the pilot to ambient air pressure?
Last edited by havick; 30th May 2011 at 08:30.
F18
.. And at FL450 or whatever the pilot would have become unconcious within seconds. Doesnt yr blood "boil"/ let off its disolved gases at that severely reduced pressure.? Apparently it continued on with auto pilot and crashed near Weipa.
Hole in the ground and wreckage found by a passing ringer on horseback some years later.
Since not fitted with a locator beacon, where to find it???
The RAAF search, two Hercs at 500ft back and forth across the Cape from the west coast to the outer reef, saw nought.. and cost the taxpayer squillions.
Do RAAF aircraft have ELTs today... probably not.
Sadly, a young "gun" bought undone.
As for drowsy trainees, warmed by the sun... Sleepers Awake!!
That Southern Ocean is bloody cold.... and deep.
Hole in the ground and wreckage found by a passing ringer on horseback some years later.
Since not fitted with a locator beacon, where to find it???
The RAAF search, two Hercs at 500ft back and forth across the Cape from the west coast to the outer reef, saw nought.. and cost the taxpayer squillions.
Do RAAF aircraft have ELTs today... probably not.
Sadly, a young "gun" bought undone.
As for drowsy trainees, warmed by the sun... Sleepers Awake!!
That Southern Ocean is bloody cold.... and deep.
From the ATSB report:
I can understand the first three (and would think that they could be tested for) - but how does wanting to take a pee render you unconscious? 
As the pilot medical has only been suspended, he can re-apply for it after negative tests. Usually a restricted medical is issued, until a time period (such as a year) has passed without further incident, and the full medical is regained.
Career on hold, not necessarily finished.
The most common causes of loss of consciousness were gastrointestinal, neurological, cardiac and urological events.
As the pilot medical has only been suspended, he can re-apply for it after negative tests. Usually a restricted medical is issued, until a time period (such as a year) has passed without further incident, and the full medical is regained.
Career on hold, not necessarily finished.
I was surprised at how little neurological testing was done during my first class 1 here in Aus.
An initial class 1 in the uk involved a full day at Gatwick, and amongst other things, an EEG, which consisted of having various sensors attached to the head, then being told to lie in a quiet dark room and relax, (until they see an alpha brain wave pattern I believe). Then being suddenly woken with a strobe light going off at various frequencies at point blank range, (obviously to test for epilepsy).
You didn't even have to have any kind of fit to fail it either, if they picked up any kind of anomaly on their machine, that was it...finished! I seem to remember you even had to sign a form beforehand to say if they did find a latent condition in you, you could have your driving Licence pulled too!
So this fella was into the sun with a prop flickering away in front of him?
An initial class 1 in the uk involved a full day at Gatwick, and amongst other things, an EEG, which consisted of having various sensors attached to the head, then being told to lie in a quiet dark room and relax, (until they see an alpha brain wave pattern I believe). Then being suddenly woken with a strobe light going off at various frequencies at point blank range, (obviously to test for epilepsy).
You didn't even have to have any kind of fit to fail it either, if they picked up any kind of anomaly on their machine, that was it...finished! I seem to remember you even had to sign a form beforehand to say if they did find a latent condition in you, you could have your driving Licence pulled too!
So this fella was into the sun with a prop flickering away in front of him?
Last edited by Unusual-Attitude; 31st May 2011 at 09:22.
He checked that the cabin heat was selected off and the cabin air vents were open
