RFDS Central Section EBA
"glek" they don't pay you brave lot enuf that's for sure
A braver bunch I've not seen,or should that be a sillier lot?
With 10 yrs service on the old Beech I was getting around $92+K gross if ya take the salary sacrifice into account meaning I'd have to earn the abv amount elsewhere to take home the same coin. Not too shabby for around 370 hrs a year & everything supplied:-)
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A braver bunch I've not seen,or should that be a sillier lot?With 10 yrs service on the old Beech I was getting around $92+K gross if ya take the salary sacrifice into account meaning I'd have to earn the abv amount elsewhere to take home the same coin. Not too shabby for around 370 hrs a year & everything supplied:-)
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Thats it mate. Certainly the best aviating.
The roster at Central should play no part in the remuneration. If someone said to me I'll work you two days a week and give you 70K thats no good. I need to put bread and wine on the table and if that means working a bit harder thats what I have to do. The money has to be in it because you have bills to pay and the cost of living ain't going down. The fact is the rest of the RFDS pilots nation wide earn a lot more than a CS pilot does and thats just not right. I earn a lot more and only fly 350 hours a year max.
You guys work way too hard for what amounts to below industry standard pay. The RFDS is a fantastic job and organisation but they tend to be a bit slow when it comes to looking after it's own. 13 years ago CS was the envy of all sections to work at! They were the highest paid.
Do the new starts at CS get permanent jobs or are they still doing the 12 month contract thing? Or does it depend on who you are?
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Thats it mate. Certainly the best aviating.
The roster at Central should play no part in the remuneration. If someone said to me I'll work you two days a week and give you 70K thats no good. I need to put bread and wine on the table and if that means working a bit harder thats what I have to do. The money has to be in it because you have bills to pay and the cost of living ain't going down. The fact is the rest of the RFDS pilots nation wide earn a lot more than a CS pilot does and thats just not right. I earn a lot more and only fly 350 hours a year max.
You guys work way too hard for what amounts to below industry standard pay. The RFDS is a fantastic job and organisation but they tend to be a bit slow when it comes to looking after it's own. 13 years ago CS was the envy of all sections to work at! They were the highest paid.
Do the new starts at CS get permanent jobs or are they still doing the 12 month contract thing? Or does it depend on who you are?
SN
Don't have the latest offer in front of me but what they presented appeared to be an attempt to split the group, offering one base a significant percentage increase over another.
The group seems to still be united, so not sweating at all, just over it!
The group seems to still be united, so not sweating at all, just over it!
My understanding of the latest offer is that it is essentially the same as the last one - which was soundly rejected - for the Adelaide based pilots, with a further increase for the YPAG and YBAS groups.
However none of the increases offered come close to bringing our wages into line with the other sections.
The obvious strategy is to try to split the group.
They seem to have given up on the Adelaide pilots, and hope to get enough "yes" votes from the others for the offer to fall over the line.
And of course there is the threat of no back pay to try to scare a few more into voting yes.
The good news is that all indications are that the pilot group will remain united and this rubbish offer will receive the same treatment as the last rubbish offer.
And very soon after that we will be voting on PIA...
However none of the increases offered come close to bringing our wages into line with the other sections.
The obvious strategy is to try to split the group.
They seem to have given up on the Adelaide pilots, and hope to get enough "yes" votes from the others for the offer to fall over the line.
And of course there is the threat of no back pay to try to scare a few more into voting yes.
The good news is that all indications are that the pilot group will remain united and this rubbish offer will receive the same treatment as the last rubbish offer.
And very soon after that we will be voting on PIA...
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Hope you fella's stick together, it's the only way to achieve your goals, especially if the management are hell bent on trying to split you into groups in order to achieve their aims.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any section has actually gone any further than advising their respective managers that PIA is being applied for in the FWA.
Once management realise that it is actually going to happen, they will do whatever it takes to avoid it.
Of course, it's a last resort, and it must be shown that negotiations alone will no longer achieve a desirable outcome for either party.
I'm not sure if it's still the case, but only AFAP members were allowed to utilise PIA under the new (Howard) Industrial Laws (providing that the AFAP is your Third Party to your Agreement).
Who is assisting you guys with your negotiations,TWU, AFAP??
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any section has actually gone any further than advising their respective managers that PIA is being applied for in the FWA.
Once management realise that it is actually going to happen, they will do whatever it takes to avoid it.
Of course, it's a last resort, and it must be shown that negotiations alone will no longer achieve a desirable outcome for either party.
I'm not sure if it's still the case, but only AFAP members were allowed to utilise PIA under the new (Howard) Industrial Laws (providing that the AFAP is your Third Party to your Agreement).
Who is assisting you guys with your negotiations,TWU, AFAP??
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They seem to have given up on the Adelaide pilots, and hope to get enough "yes" votes from the others for the offer to fall over the line.
All I can say is stick together, in the last five years I have been a part of two succesful EBA negotiations that have seen my pay almost double in that time. If you stick together and seek protected industrial action (which we had to do both times), they will eventually have to come to the table.
Good luck boys and girls.
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Whatever you do stick together. Overwhelmingly reject any substandard offers that do not equally benefit all concerned. Proceed to PIA ASAP its only then you will get the results your looking for. My guess is they'll fold at the 11th hour.
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