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I think you had better send me your details....or check your PM's.
This is a mine field if you do not know what you are looking for.
Recently a chap in Townsville was keen as mustard on an RV10, he wisely spent the $$ and had "The Critter" on a Jet to Texas ........who quickly had a fit at what had been done to a load carrying bulkhead.
Give me a call with your mission requirements and I might be able to help you make a good decission.
Cheers
J
I think you had better send me your details....or check your PM's.
This is a mine field if you do not know what you are looking for.
Recently a chap in Townsville was keen as mustard on an RV10, he wisely spent the $$ and had "The Critter" on a Jet to Texas ........who quickly had a fit at what had been done to a load carrying bulkhead.
Give me a call with your mission requirements and I might be able to help you make a good decission.
Cheers
J
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Rv10 260Hp
52.5 Lt/Hr 165KTAS
55 Lt/Hr 170KTAS
60 Lt/Hr 175KTAS
Will do 65Lt/Hr 180KTAS but only up to full throttle height....
Oil/ Filter changes 25hrly about 100 per change
No other maintenance costs as new engine/ prop airframe
I budget about $120/hr for all inc insurance, fuel, ect excluding landing and airways charges.
300hrs on type.... built it myself..... PM for more details if you like
52.5 Lt/Hr 165KTAS
55 Lt/Hr 170KTAS
60 Lt/Hr 175KTAS
Will do 65Lt/Hr 180KTAS but only up to full throttle height....
Oil/ Filter changes 25hrly about 100 per change
No other maintenance costs as new engine/ prop airframe
I budget about $120/hr for all inc insurance, fuel, ect excluding landing and airways charges.
300hrs on type.... built it myself..... PM for more details if you like
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Hey Jackons
Is that post meant for viewing by your wife Thats what I tell her too, but its kind of selective accounting there mate.
Also you need to run that engine differently. I wish I had a picture of the trip to Echuca a month or so back, TAS166 @ 41LPH with two of us and gear at 10,000'.
Here is a pic in the middle of summer, 4 POB, Tips full and a load of supplies to YRLL.
So lets say you run at best power and say 5000' to get the 180 knots, which they will do, this equates to around 57LPH. This will be around 85% power. Oddly enough that is also about what I see on the EMS. I think you are throwing fuel out the exhaust pipe and gunking up your valves etc.
So for running costs, lets look at some rough numbers.
Fuel approx 45-47LPH average $85-90/hr
Overhaul/replacement allowance on engine and prop $27-28/hr even with todays rate
Insurance $21/hr based on 200hrs per year
General maintenance, RAD43/47 ADinst9 etc etc etc $10 min.
Hangarage - varies a lot but say $15/hr
How about cost of finace even if you own it outright like we do, it could be funds elsewhere........ say $60/hr
Thats $224/hour before we add other things like doing Instrument renewals, or if IFR....all the data updates and Jepps etc.....
If I have something wrong....please let me know.
J
Is that post meant for viewing by your wife
Thats what I tell her too, but its kind of selective accounting there mate.Also you need to run that engine differently. I wish I had a picture of the trip to Echuca a month or so back, TAS166 @ 41LPH with two of us and gear at 10,000'.
Here is a pic in the middle of summer, 4 POB, Tips full and a load of supplies to YRLL.
So lets say you run at best power and say 5000' to get the 180 knots, which they will do, this equates to around 57LPH. This will be around 85% power. Oddly enough that is also about what I see on the EMS. I think you are throwing fuel out the exhaust pipe and gunking up your valves etc.
So for running costs, lets look at some rough numbers.
Fuel approx 45-47LPH average $85-90/hr
Overhaul/replacement allowance on engine and prop $27-28/hr even with todays rate
Insurance $21/hr based on 200hrs per year
General maintenance, RAD43/47 ADinst9 etc etc etc $10 min.
Hangarage - varies a lot but say $15/hr
How about cost of finace even if you own it outright like we do, it could be funds elsewhere........ say $60/hr
Thats $224/hour before we add other things like doing Instrument renewals, or if IFR....all the data updates and Jepps etc.....
If I have something wrong....please let me know.
J
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If you want your engine to last a long time happily over TBO then changing the oil filter regularly is a great idea. For what it costs, it may pay off in the long run, especially with leaded fuel.
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I think you only have to change oil every 4 months if you do not fly very regular, Lyc SI 1425, I would suggest changing oil filter every 25 hrs a bit overkill. a bit messy and more potential for forgetting to do it up. lyc sl 185B refers to recomendations. each to there own of course!
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XXX is confusing engine types 
There is absolutely no benefit in doing them at 25 hours IF you are doing changes say every 4 months. Which we do about 40-50 every 3 months.
The issue is contamination from condensation/acids forming if you do not fly often and do 30 hours a year.
A healthy engine will be fine on 50 hr changes if they are frequent enough. The sump volume is going to be run at 7-12L on the big fellas anyway.
J
There is absolutely no benefit in doing them at 25 hours IF you are doing changes say every 4 months. Which we do about 40-50 every 3 months.
The issue is contamination from condensation/acids forming if you do not fly often and do 30 hours a year.
A healthy engine will be fine on 50 hr changes if they are frequent enough. The sump volume is going to be run at 7-12L on the big fellas anyway.
J
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The RV-6 is only certfied for aeros with 1 POB whereas the 7 you can with 2.....so I am lead to beleive , can any one confirm?
Depending on empty weight, you could probably put two 60 KG people in the RV6 and with half tanks go do aeros. So it is not practically possible with two standard people.
The RV7 as an aerobatic max gross of 725 KG, enough for two reasonably sized guys and half fuel.
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Is it both feasible and reasonable to put a TIO-360 lycoming instead of the IO-360 into an 8? I was just thinking that the altitude performance would be significantly greater.
From what I can see, excellent layout Jaba. Is it IFR? Do you have built in oxygen?
Do RV 8 kits need to be imported from the states or is there a suppplier in Aus?
Cheers
From what I can see, excellent layout Jaba. Is it IFR? Do you have built in oxygen?
Do RV 8 kits need to be imported from the states or is there a suppplier in Aus?
Cheers
Is it both feasible and reasonable to put a TIO-360 lycoming instead of the IO-360 into an 8? I was just thinking that the altitude performance would be significantly greater.
From what I can see, excellent layout Jaba. Is it IFR? Do you have built in oxygen?
Do RV 8 kits need to be imported from the states or is there a suppplier in Aus?
Cheers
From what I can see, excellent layout Jaba. Is it IFR? Do you have built in oxygen?
Do RV 8 kits need to be imported from the states or is there a suppplier in Aus?
Cheers
Dick Vangrunsven has opined at some length about this issue and many others in the RVator magazine (later editions available as .pdfs on their website) and elswhere. RVator is now replaced with the Van's Facebook page - check it out!
All the kits come from the states - a little bit of work and expense in the import but join the RVs_in_Aus yahoo mailing list and see who's importing already - some have containers heading this way, or at least advice on the latest, best way of handling the shipping.
IMO, ship as much as you can in one hit.
A
From what I can see, excellent layout Jaba. Is it IFR?
Dr
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It's easy to start if you live in the 20th or later century
Had a DR from Georgia USA fly it today, and as per usual, just like you and chuckles.....made me look average.
It's easy to start if you live in the 20th or later century
Had a DR from Georgia USA fly it today, and as per usual, just like you and chuckles.....made me look average.