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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 03:23
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Air New Zealand School of Flight

I know this has already been mentioned in the recruiting thread for Air New Zealand, but seeing as this gets launched on the 8th of April (I think, if not then thereabouts) I thought I would open a new thread to discuss the School and its providors.

As per the website: School of Flight there will be 5 training providors for the initial pilot training. Rumour has it that the major 'usual' flight schools got the nod and are spread geographically across NZ.

Thoughts on the school and its cadet-like manner...?
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I just had a look at the website you posted SEAL, but didn't really understand it. Is Air New Zealand going to begin a cadetship program? Or are they just offering their sims for type ratings etc?
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Hey where are you getting the information about the launch date for this program? From what I have been told, applications from aero clubs have not been finalised yet (my aero club have said that they wont be applying for a few more months - although I assume this is because they don't stand a chance in hell at the moment).

The FB page has at least had some updates over the past few weeks, so hopefully more info comes out soon!
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Shock horror, this is going to be an Air New Zealand cadet scheme. Great career path for those who are about to begin training.
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alexWCD - It kinda looks like both really. The sims appear to be availiable to anyone for type training. Also the First Officer (Cadet) Programme info is here: First Officer Programme. One thing is for sure, its all pretty vague at the moment until the official launch in a week or so.

jakepretor - As far as I'm aware applications / business cases for the initial programme closed late last year. Perhaps ANZ are still taking applications for future use when and if they need to swap providers. Looks like your Aero Club might be a bit slow for round one though . The launch is expected within the next 2 weeks, however it was meant to be mid-late March but got pushed back perhaps due to the CH EQ / Japan.

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Had a look at the website today, no change? Anyone else see/hear any different?
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Great career path for those who are about to begin training.
Also one of the slowest airline pilot career progressions in the world
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I hope I don't sound too silly here... but how does a "Dry Hire Sim" Work? Does this mean I have to provide my own Generator to power it as opposed to a "Wet Hire Sim" where they'll let me use their power sockets?
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Means that you provide the sim operator / instructor.
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Had a look at the website today, no change? Anyone else see/hear any different?
April 20th I believe...pushed back...
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I rang NZ today to ask which five schools were their partners but the people I spoke with couldn't tell me!!
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Originally Posted by WM2672
I rang NZ today to ask which five schools were their partners but the people I spoke with couldn't tell me!!
Before the notorious GG can reply; phone back in 25 years when NZ will have caught up with present day news.
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Going by what is actually written on the website it is clearly not an Air New Zealand cadetship. Rather, it is somewhere for other airlines to train their cadets.
Does someone actually have any information contrary to this, or are we just making things up here?
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Wait another 7 days and all will be revealed (apparently).
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Trust me, from the union emails going around this WILL be some form of Air New Zealand cadetship. I have heard the specially selected people will attend one of around 5 specially selected flying schools. On completion the cadet First Officer will be streamed to a Second Officer position on longhaul followed by a placement with one of the link carriers as a first officer to serve out time until required back in mainline as a first officer. That is what I have seen being proposed. There are quite a few who are opposed to the whole idea as it is seen as a way of Air NZ reducing the terms and conditions in New Zealand. i.e. SO's in AIR NZ mainline earning $50,000 per year as a cadet. We will wait and see.
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On completion the cadet First Officer will be streamed to a Second Officer position on longhaul followed by a placement with one of the link carriers as a first officer to serve out time until required back in mainline as a first officer. That is what I have seen being proposed. There are quite a few who are opposed to the whole idea as it is seen as a way of Air NZ reducing the terms and conditions in New Zealand. i.e. SO's in AIR NZ mainline earning $50,000 per year as a cadet.
Could be more than a couple of fish hooks in this.

Two for a start,

Where will the link operators get their Captains from?

If the figures I hear about link FO salaries are correct will the mainline SO cadets take a pay cut to come back as a link FO?
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Yep AH I have heard the same. From what I can tell the union are pretty relaxed about it saying that it is just a suggestion and there is nothing set in concrete.

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The numbers to start with will be apparently very small. I heard a figure of 4 Cadets a year for the first little while. Then again lot's of rumours swirling and this could be totally off the money.
 
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just a suggestion and there is nothing set in concrete
Unfortunately such suggestions slowly solidify into something similar to concrete. Not something to be relaxed about, especially if your'e a current link FO or Captain with aspirations of going to mainline.

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