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ATPL Flight Planning
Hi All,
Just a question to those of you who have completed F/P
AFT notes say to use the (IN-Flight Planning Tables) for all calculations.Does this mean the (Before Flight Planning Tables) are not required at all for the exam?
If so I plan on removing them from the B727 Handbook.As not tags allowed there is not point flicking through these pages searching for something else if they are not required.
Just a question to those of you who have completed F/P
AFT notes say to use the (IN-Flight Planning Tables) for all calculations.Does this mean the (Before Flight Planning Tables) are not required at all for the exam?
If so I plan on removing them from the B727 Handbook.As not tags allowed there is not point flicking through these pages searching for something else if they are not required.
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From what I remember, both sets of tables give you exactly the same information, but the way it's extracted differs.
It's a lot easier and quicker to get the info out of the In-Flight table than out of the Planning table. In the Flight Planning exam time, speed and accuracy are of the essence. Nathans notes will help you to not only understand the processes you need to go through but also help you to get the info quickly.
Hope this helps.
NWF
It's a lot easier and quicker to get the info out of the In-Flight table than out of the Planning table. In the Flight Planning exam time, speed and accuracy are of the essence. Nathans notes will help you to not only understand the processes you need to go through but also help you to get the info quickly.
Hope this helps.
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There are some before flight questions in there.
I was taught to use the tables as they are named so I did use both sets of tables in the exam.
I personally wouldn't trust it enough in an exam to use the in flights only. I found a discrepancy in max altitude during study for it. Altitude table says yes you can while the TAT deviation in the in flight says no you cant.
Just in case there are more I used the appropriate table that CASA base their answer from.
I was taught to use the tables as they are named so I did use both sets of tables in the exam.
I personally wouldn't trust it enough in an exam to use the in flights only. I found a discrepancy in max altitude during study for it. Altitude table says yes you can while the TAT deviation in the in flight says no you cant.
Just in case there are more I used the appropriate table that CASA base their answer from.
You should find the results practically identical for the preflight ("integrated") and inflight tables - but the preflight are not at all intuitive for the normal calculation methods.
The only thing I take from the preflight tables is the TAS for each Mach/alt combination - it's more accurate than the average students' wizwheel.
The only thing I take from the preflight tables is the TAS for each Mach/alt combination - it's more accurate than the average students' wizwheel.
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Bringing up an old topic- and yes FWIW i have read through the big atpl fpl thread, however have a few qs as im shortly going to sit it.
1. Are AFTs questions pretty much on the money with regards to the actual CASA exam? ive heard Avery words his completely differently and aside from the fact Avery uses the picture method and AFT tables( of which i find tables much easier) will there be questions brought up that could likely have not been encountered in AFT
2. with regard to the ERC charts, has anyone who has sat the exam ever had to calculate a rough track, and distance because a distance within a Terminal area was not given, and or track , or is this always provided?
3. right into the AFT notes now- besides running through them all and doing all the qs, and the cyber exams, does anyone know of any other practice exam books i should obtain that could assist in passing, or are the AFT ones sufficient.
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1. Are AFTs questions pretty much on the money with regards to the actual CASA exam? ive heard Avery words his completely differently and aside from the fact Avery uses the picture method and AFT tables( of which i find tables much easier) will there be questions brought up that could likely have not been encountered in AFT
2. with regard to the ERC charts, has anyone who has sat the exam ever had to calculate a rough track, and distance because a distance within a Terminal area was not given, and or track , or is this always provided?
3. right into the AFT notes now- besides running through them all and doing all the qs, and the cyber exams, does anyone know of any other practice exam books i should obtain that could assist in passing, or are the AFT ones sufficient.
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1. AFT is as good as it gets. You won't get any closer to the style and wording. Some questions are exactly the same ( even some of the big 5 markers ) but you may find the data ( ie.. wind, gross weight , distances ..etc) different in some of the questions.
2. Yes it happened to me and I used the latest ERCs so be prepared for anything.
3. The AFT questions should definitely be enough, plenty of revision tests and cyber exam questions that should keep you busy for weeks. I spent a month and a half in my local library just going through the book and Qs before I attempted the Cyberexm. There's a lot of good stuff in Nathans course notes.
2. Yes it happened to me and I used the latest ERCs so be prepared for anything.
3. The AFT questions should definitely be enough, plenty of revision tests and cyber exam questions that should keep you busy for weeks. I spent a month and a half in my local library just going through the book and Qs before I attempted the Cyberexm. There's a lot of good stuff in Nathans course notes.
