Susi Air
Susi Air
Is anyone getting an interview in March 6?
is it worth having a go.
Im thinking of it, change of scenery, get out of Oz for a while. Got 4000TT 400 ME
Thoughts anyone................yes I have read everything I can find about Susi.
is it worth having a go.
Im thinking of it, change of scenery, get out of Oz for a while. Got 4000TT 400 ME
Thoughts anyone................yes I have read everything I can find about Susi.
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OK, so it's Mar 6 in MLB -but where?
Can anyone provide full details please? I may be interested in popping down myself. Would appreciate any info available.
Can anyone provide full details please? I may be interested in popping down myself. Would appreciate any info available.
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Sky Aviation - Fly Smart, Fly SKy
While we are at it, I had a chat to the guy on the stand at the airshow and he mentioned they operate their aircraft as 2 crew rather than single pilot. Does this mean the months/year(s) you spend as the 'co-pilot' (first officer? 
) of the caravan are useless as it's a single pilot plane, or can they be logged and if they can, are they any use for future employment prospects?
) of the caravan are useless as it's a single pilot plane, or can they be logged and if they can, are they any use for future employment prospects?
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While we are at it, I had a chat to the guy on the stand at the airshow and he mentioned they operate their aircraft as 2 crew rather than single pilot. Does this mean the months/year(s) you spend as the 'co-pilot' (first officer? ) of the caravan are useless as it's a single pilot plane, or can they be logged and if they can, are they any use for future employment prospects?
) of the caravan are useless as it's a single pilot plane, or can they be logged and if they can, are they any use for future employment prospects?
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Except for now they are coming out with aircraft like the PC12 which is commonly operated two crew around the world and is single engine?
Indonesia has/had a requirement that you must operate two crew if you carry over 9 passengers. Just because it is signed off as a single pilot aircraft doesnt mean jack.
As I said before, the B1900 is signed off as a single pilot aircraft as well.
The problem before was more the legality of the licences at the time. Whether this is still a issue, I dont know.
Also have heard a rumour that they may be operating single crew now, just waiting to hear from a friend whos working there if this is the case.
Indonesia has/had a requirement that you must operate two crew if you carry over 9 passengers. Just because it is signed off as a single pilot aircraft doesnt mean jack.
As I said before, the B1900 is signed off as a single pilot aircraft as well.
The problem before was more the legality of the licences at the time. Whether this is still a issue, I dont know.
Also have heard a rumour that they may be operating single crew now, just waiting to hear from a friend whos working there if this is the case.
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Susi Air Interview
Hey Guys
Can someone help me out in regards to questions that may be asked in my interview with Susi Air and also whats involved in the Tests they give you.
Cheers
Can someone help me out in regards to questions that may be asked in my interview with Susi Air and also whats involved in the Tests they give you.
Cheers
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Log Book Questions
Regarding logging hrs in a c208 single engine turbine: I spoke to CASA about this you can still log them you just log them as co-pilot time under the multi-engine copilot time. Very Strange but thats from the horses mouth. Apperantly it was suggested to use a different colour pen if you want but they said you can see what type of aircraft it is by looking at it in the Aircraft type.
This may help out with some of your questions
This may help out with some of your questions
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Australian CASA advice and Interview process
I checked with CASA (Australian regulator) before coming over to join Susi Air last year and CASA emailed me a reply which stated that the hours logged as a co-pilot should be logged in the co-pilot multi time column with the note that you must remember to deduct 50% of logged co-pilot time from your total aeronautical experience (if you have an Australian log book this calculation appears at the bottom of the page, apologies if I am not explaining myself very well.)
As for what you can expect at the interview I can give you my experience as a guide however I believe it is fairly typical of what most candidates undertake.
You will arrive at the Senjaya office (or perhaps Menteng now) and usually be amongst a group of other candidates. An information session is given to you about Susi Air etc. (The company used to provide you with up to 2 nights accommodation at a hotel in Jakarta at their expense, I'm not sure if this is still the case though.)
Thereafter you are asked to complete two written tests. The first test is based around CPL subjects such as MET, Basic Air law, Navigation etc.
The second test is around IFR and the C208. You will need to know some things about the C208B such as the inertial separator, locations of various equipment, PT6 engine. If I remember correctly each paper has 25 questions.
The next part of your interview involves the Compass test. (I tried to find information about this via Google before I came over and what I found on Google was not what I ended up with.) The Compass test given by Susi Air runs for 2 hours roughly. The first part of the test asks you 250 questions about your personality and how you react to certain situations etc.
The second part of the Compass tests is made up of several mini tests each of which is timed. One tests your mathematical ability, another is a memory test (the screen will show you a series of items such as heading, altitude, transponder code etc. These then disappear and you must then tune the relevant instruments on the screen.) In another test you have a joystick and rudder pedals in front of you which are used to try to keep a dot centred on a certain part of the screen. There are a couple more mini tests as well but it's been a bit too long now so I have forgotten them.
Unless you are completely uncoordinated, can't remember any of your CPL subjects, haven't read about the Caravan and the PT6 engine you should find it relatively straight forward.
At the end of all those tests you will then have a one on one interview. Here you will again be asked about the PT6 engine and the Caravan, your willingness to work in a 3rd world country etc. Depending on who completes your one on one interview you are likely to be given more information about the company and that's pretty much it.
As I said I joined Susi Air last year and have thoroughly enjoyed my time here. I do understand though it is certainly not for everyone and only you know yourself if your the type who can handle living in a foreign country where things are done differently to back home.
From my experience, the Indonesian people are an incredibly friendly bunch of people and if you make the effort right from the start to learn a bit of Indonesian and their culture you will be welcomed warmly. The flying is out of this world, you move bases monthly as a co-pilot and you get to fly new G1000 Caravans (The legacy Caravans are all in Papua and you generally go to Papua towards the end of your co-pilot time prior to upgrading to Captain.)
There is a lot of information about Susi Air posted on PPrune and not all of it is true. Yes there certainly are the downsides to the company and the country but in my experience the benefits outweigh the negatives for me.
As for what you can expect at the interview I can give you my experience as a guide however I believe it is fairly typical of what most candidates undertake.
You will arrive at the Senjaya office (or perhaps Menteng now) and usually be amongst a group of other candidates. An information session is given to you about Susi Air etc. (The company used to provide you with up to 2 nights accommodation at a hotel in Jakarta at their expense, I'm not sure if this is still the case though.)
Thereafter you are asked to complete two written tests. The first test is based around CPL subjects such as MET, Basic Air law, Navigation etc.
The second test is around IFR and the C208. You will need to know some things about the C208B such as the inertial separator, locations of various equipment, PT6 engine. If I remember correctly each paper has 25 questions.
The next part of your interview involves the Compass test. (I tried to find information about this via Google before I came over and what I found on Google was not what I ended up with.) The Compass test given by Susi Air runs for 2 hours roughly. The first part of the test asks you 250 questions about your personality and how you react to certain situations etc.
The second part of the Compass tests is made up of several mini tests each of which is timed. One tests your mathematical ability, another is a memory test (the screen will show you a series of items such as heading, altitude, transponder code etc. These then disappear and you must then tune the relevant instruments on the screen.) In another test you have a joystick and rudder pedals in front of you which are used to try to keep a dot centred on a certain part of the screen. There are a couple more mini tests as well but it's been a bit too long now so I have forgotten them.
Unless you are completely uncoordinated, can't remember any of your CPL subjects, haven't read about the Caravan and the PT6 engine you should find it relatively straight forward.
At the end of all those tests you will then have a one on one interview. Here you will again be asked about the PT6 engine and the Caravan, your willingness to work in a 3rd world country etc. Depending on who completes your one on one interview you are likely to be given more information about the company and that's pretty much it.
As I said I joined Susi Air last year and have thoroughly enjoyed my time here. I do understand though it is certainly not for everyone and only you know yourself if your the type who can handle living in a foreign country where things are done differently to back home.
From my experience, the Indonesian people are an incredibly friendly bunch of people and if you make the effort right from the start to learn a bit of Indonesian and their culture you will be welcomed warmly. The flying is out of this world, you move bases monthly as a co-pilot and you get to fly new G1000 Caravans (The legacy Caravans are all in Papua and you generally go to Papua towards the end of your co-pilot time prior to upgrading to Captain.)
There is a lot of information about Susi Air posted on PPrune and not all of it is true. Yes there certainly are the downsides to the company and the country but in my experience the benefits outweigh the negatives for me.
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interview Susi
The interview works more like this.
Question 1. Are you willing to work for free to help us make money? Yes. 2. Are you so foolish that will you fly in the worst weather on earth and sacrifice your life to have your ego fulfilled being a pilot? Yes. 3. Will you lie to your friends and screw them when the appropriate time comes when it gets down to you or them moving up a little bit in the world? Yes. 4. Will you promise not to to write up a snag if that means that the company would lose a bit of revenue? Yes 5. Do you promise to work up to any amount of hours and fly overweight even when we all know its illegal if that is what we ask you to do? Yes. 6. Do you promise never to complain or say anything bad against Susi and Christian even though they are the most greedy scum on earth who would screw you the first chance they get and could care less if you crashed and burned up in some jungle and were never found, as long as the insurance paid out in the aircraft? Yes.
You Passed By the way, this will cover most interviews at most airlines worldwide.
Question 1. Are you willing to work for free to help us make money? Yes. 2. Are you so foolish that will you fly in the worst weather on earth and sacrifice your life to have your ego fulfilled being a pilot? Yes. 3. Will you lie to your friends and screw them when the appropriate time comes when it gets down to you or them moving up a little bit in the world? Yes. 4. Will you promise not to to write up a snag if that means that the company would lose a bit of revenue? Yes 5. Do you promise to work up to any amount of hours and fly overweight even when we all know its illegal if that is what we ask you to do? Yes. 6. Do you promise never to complain or say anything bad against Susi and Christian even though they are the most greedy scum on earth who would screw you the first chance they get and could care less if you crashed and burned up in some jungle and were never found, as long as the insurance paid out in the aircraft? Yes.
You Passed By the way, this will cover most interviews at most airlines worldwide.