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Bill Shat
You are right in certain instances BMI is not a good indicator, clearly in your case it is not. But generally when combined with a whole lot of other paramaters it is useful. Medicine and indeed many other professions are not exact precise sciences.
I can sympathise with your situation, but many airlines use BMI in their selection process. Fall outside the paramaters and you get canned.
If employed and you fall outside the range, you get put on notice to lose the weight. I believe one airline uses 31 as it's benchmark. What is a healthy BMI? Is as you pointed out debatable.
Craven
You are right in certain instances BMI is not a good indicator, clearly in your case it is not. But generally when combined with a whole lot of other paramaters it is useful. Medicine and indeed many other professions are not exact precise sciences.
I can sympathise with your situation, but many airlines use BMI in their selection process. Fall outside the paramaters and you get canned.
If employed and you fall outside the range, you get put on notice to lose the weight. I believe one airline uses 31 as it's benchmark. What is a healthy BMI? Is as you pointed out debatable.
Craven
Reading this, I suspect there are a few on here that wouldn't be able to see their "weeners" regardless of how much they weigh. I suspect they know exactly what they feel like. 
BMI s rubbish and most Drs will say the same.
I should weigh something like 65 kgs. My skeleton weighs more than that! A reasonable weight for me is about 75 KG (172 cm). That would put me in the over weight category. I now just fit in the obese category, however I suspect I am a little more than on the line. All other indicators are fine and the Dr hasn't commented, as yet.
Just because airline HR people use it doesn't makeit right. Get real, and if there using 30 they are accepting people well within the obese range?
BMI s rubbish and most Drs will say the same.
I should weigh something like 65 kgs. My skeleton weighs more than that! A reasonable weight for me is about 75 KG (172 cm). That would put me in the over weight category. I now just fit in the obese category, however I suspect I am a little more than on the line. All other indicators are fine and the Dr hasn't commented, as yet.
Just because airline HR people use it doesn't makeit right. Get real, and if there using 30 they are accepting people well within the obese range?
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BMI is the easiest and quickest (and cruedest) formula to use quiet simply.
What would the other options be? Floatation tank to measure actual body fat or a fitness assessment. Both would add cost
I'm not saying it's a good system, far from it, but i cant see it going anywhere in the near future
(I have been present when a civilian doctor reviewed a military member's BMI results and told him you need to loose weight before i sign off your annual medical. 5 days previous to this he finished within the top 30 of the Hawaiin Ironman)
What would the other options be? Floatation tank to measure actual body fat or a fitness assessment. Both would add cost
I'm not saying it's a good system, far from it, but i cant see it going anywhere in the near future
(I have been present when a civilian doctor reviewed a military member's BMI results and told him you need to loose weight before i sign off your annual medical. 5 days previous to this he finished within the top 30 of the Hawaiin Ironman)
JENNY CRAIG FOR MEN
A guy calls the company and orders their 5-day, 10 lb. (4.5kg) weight loss program.
The next day, there's a knock on the door and there stands before him a voluptuous, athletic, 19 year old babe dressed in nothing but a pair of Nike running shoes and a sign around her neck.
She introduces herself as a representative of the weight loss company.
The sign reads, 'If you can catch me, you can have me.'
Without a second thought, he takes off after her. A few miles later huffing and puffing, he finally gives up.
The same girl shows up for the next four days and the same thing happens.
On the fifth day, he weighs himself and is delighted to find he has lost 10 lbs. as promised.
He calls the company and orders their 5-day/20 (9 kg) pound program.
The next day there's a knock at the door and there stands the most stunning, beautiful, sexy woman he has ever seen in his life. She is wearing nothing but Reebok running shoes and a sign around her neck that reads, 'If you catch me you can have me'.
Well, he's out the door after her like a shot. This girl is in excellent shape and he does his best, but no such luck. So for the next four days, the same routine happens with him gradually getting in better and better shape.
Much to his delight on the fifth day when he weighs himself, he discovers that he has lost another 20 lbs. as promised.
He decides to go for broke and calls the company to order the 7-day/50 (22kg) pound program. 'Are you sure?' asks the representative on the phone. 'This is our most rigorous program.'
'Absolutely,' he replies, 'I haven't felt this good in years.'
The next day there's a knock at the door; and when he opens it he finds a huge muscular "guy" standing there wearing nothing but pink running shoes and a sign around his neck that reads, 'If I catch you, you're mine.'
He lost 63 pounds (28 kg) that week.
A guy calls the company and orders their 5-day, 10 lb. (4.5kg) weight loss program.
The next day, there's a knock on the door and there stands before him a voluptuous, athletic, 19 year old babe dressed in nothing but a pair of Nike running shoes and a sign around her neck.
She introduces herself as a representative of the weight loss company.
The sign reads, 'If you can catch me, you can have me.'
Without a second thought, he takes off after her. A few miles later huffing and puffing, he finally gives up.
The same girl shows up for the next four days and the same thing happens.
On the fifth day, he weighs himself and is delighted to find he has lost 10 lbs. as promised.
He calls the company and orders their 5-day/20 (9 kg) pound program.
The next day there's a knock at the door and there stands the most stunning, beautiful, sexy woman he has ever seen in his life. She is wearing nothing but Reebok running shoes and a sign around her neck that reads, 'If you catch me you can have me'.
Well, he's out the door after her like a shot. This girl is in excellent shape and he does his best, but no such luck. So for the next four days, the same routine happens with him gradually getting in better and better shape.
Much to his delight on the fifth day when he weighs himself, he discovers that he has lost another 20 lbs. as promised.
He decides to go for broke and calls the company to order the 7-day/50 (22kg) pound program. 'Are you sure?' asks the representative on the phone. 'This is our most rigorous program.'
'Absolutely,' he replies, 'I haven't felt this good in years.'
The next day there's a knock at the door; and when he opens it he finds a huge muscular "guy" standing there wearing nothing but pink running shoes and a sign around his neck that reads, 'If I catch you, you're mine.'
He lost 63 pounds (28 kg) that week.
