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Old 1st Feb 2011, 00:07
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Jepp Charts on Your IPad

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Its ok, but the charts aren't centred at the moment which is annoying. Also they don't scale correctly to the ipad so you cant really see the whole plate at once.

Its getting better though. I emailed them about putting in brightness control and they did it (im sure I wasn't the only one of course). So it'll probably improve with time.
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Yawn

Been there, done that, bought the T Shirt.....next!
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Been mentioned many times before on here, but the REAL question is what will CASA allow? Can you have this instead of a hard copy?

I can't wait - nothing worse than updating a Pacific Basin series of Jepps, especially runway works at Tokyo
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stallie, I was once handed a few containers containing the folders for one set of pac basin, no updates had been done in 12 months except for the airports that people had been flying to. Little bit of a moment in Kalgoolie saw the aeroclub bins pick up the whole lot. Jeppview arrived, and then anything that is needed is printed and the iPad can also view it all.
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I spoke to Jepps the other day I was advised that the Ipad is not certified above 10000 feet but thereare other products out there that are certified for use at flight levels.
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So are you saying it is certified below 10,000?
 
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At least you'll get your amendments on time......................or are they just as rooted as the paper copy?

And it wont take you 5 hours to do the amendments...................or does it take that long to download?
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It syncs to your Jeppview subscription and, yes that can take a couple of hours to download.

not certified above 10000 feet
Um, FAR 25.841 pressurised aircraft need to have a cabin alt of <8000' to be certified. I presume you're not using it outside?

It might be more relevant to the US market though with unpressurised flight as US pilots don't get hypoxic at 10,100 feet like we do and regularly fly over 10K unpressurised.
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Cabin altitude is not above 10,000' so the ipad will work fine in any pressurized a/c. Before anybody says what about the decompression case, you will not be looking for approach plates during your emergency descent, once below 10,000' and off oxygen you will then have time to get out your ipad and brief your arrival.
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How many approaches are there in the world that are flown above 10,000'?
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CAR 233 requires carriage of maps, charts and other aeronautical information and instructions, published in the AIP or by a person approved in writing.

While Jeppesen are approved as a provider, you will probably find the iPad has yet to be approved in Australia. There is a requirement that these devices where not permanently mounted in the aircraft (and hence subject to the normal certification process) be demonstrated to CASA to reliably meet the intended electronic flight bag functions.
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The CAR doesn't specify paper-based charts, however the airworthiness bulletin adds additional restrictions to electronic-based charts.
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This has been done to death on EFB threads. The 10,000 ft thing is because traditional hard drives are not reliable above 10,000ft. They rely on the airpressure from the spinning platter to keep the head from touching the spinning platter. Above 10,000ft DENSITY ALT, this is uncertain. One touch of the head to the platter and the hard drive (and therefore the device) is dead.

The best thing is a Windows 7 based tablet PC with a solid state drive (SSD) running Jeppview. It will give you moving maps too. But the ipad is a bloody good chart reader.
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once below 10,000' and off oxygen you will then have time to get out your ipad and brief your arrival.
IF it is still working that is.

I have seen them used and like them, very much but I will be keeping paper copies in my bag anticipating the failure of the battery, screen or drive.
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I'm with Old Akro. I run Jeeppesen FliteDeck on a 10.1" Win7 tablet with a solid state drive. The geo referenced plates and enroute mapping are really nice for reassurance. I have Command Flight Planner, Ozi Explorer on it and use the inbuilt 3g for Wx.

All up the tablet + the inverter power supply has cost me about $450.

Now I know there are a lot of Apple fans here but in my experience this is way more functional at a much cheaper price.

To anyone looking to buy an Ipad for this purpose. I would suggest that you do your homework on the capabilities of other products before you go contributing to the Apple marketing department.
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a key point to remember if anyone goes the iPad route, you do NOT have any enroute charts, so you need to carry some form of paper version.
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a key point to remember if anyone goes the iPad route, you do NOT have any enroute charts, so you need to carry some form of paper version.
I don't think that is so!

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I have WAC/VTC/VNC on my Ipad (with overlaid IFR enroute waypoints/CTR boundaries/navaids etc etc at the push of a button) - all zoomable and searchable and utterly awesome...and geo-referenced via the internal GPS or an external 36 channel bluetooth GPS...can draw magenta lines/flight plan with gay abandon and it calculates tracks/distances/ETAs etc etc

I have Ozrunways (DAPS E & W/AIP/ERSA - updated quarterly) and await their charting function with baited breath.

All backed up on my iphone.

All licensed data from AsA.

The Ipad has a SSD and is as immune to altitude worries as anything out there....plus a utterly stable underlying system that leaves windows for dead...and an 8 hr battery life.

Chances of both Ipad and Iphone dying at the same time?

For private ops WTF would I want a paper backup?

My 32gb Ipad 3G wifi is an awesome EFB. An entire navbag condensed into one IPAD...not to mention all the manuals for company 777, C195 (so far - Bonanza to come) in Goodreader - plus all the 'running around' computing power I can ever want via Telstra 3G - Skype via bluetooth headset connectivity blah blah blah.

Chance of me ever again flying a lighty with a navbag full of paper?

Remote.

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For private ops WTF would I want a paper backup?
Well you wouldn't. This however is Pprune P=Professional My comment about paper back up is for the benefit of the two hundred or so passengers paying me to get them there safely with or without on iPad.

For private ops, go for it. I like your iPhone back up but I will stick with paper for now as plan B until I prove the iPad for myself.
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