Becoming a Airline Pilot
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Becoming a Airline Pilot
I am about to start year 12 and I am deciding on a career pathway. I am looking at the possibility of learning to become a airline pilot, a job that has always interested me. The University of South Australia offers a bachelor of applied science in aviation, is this a good way of doing it? Would this be attractive to major airlines like Virgin, and Qantas?
Any replies are greatly appreciated
Any replies are greatly appreciated
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I find it a jolly good idea to ensure one's house is in proper order before casting aspersions on others.
Nooby, I do believe that this subject has many previous threads. I highly recommend using the search function to find aforementioned.
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I find it a jolly good idea to ensure one's house is in proper order before casting aspersions on others.
Nooby, I do believe that this subject has many previous threads. I highly recommend using the search function to find aforementioned.
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You may find that usefull when applying for any job.
Best to go visiting flying schools and uni open days. All you'll get into here is a debate about whether it's better for an airline gig to have been to uni or not, and whether a pilot job is a profession versus a trade (debates which has been argued here many times).
(This also isn't really the correct forum for your question. "Which Flying School?" threads don't last long.)
Gidday Nooby:
Forget degree's, forget "planning" the most logical path, UNLESS, you truely want to get your arse into an aeroplane, any aeroplane more than anything else in the world. If that's not the case, you may find the outcome in this brave new world of ours something less than what you might expect.
Not being negative, but I am flying more and more with people that have skipped points A,B,....gone straight to F, and are now asking, "...so, is this all there is?"
Forget degree's, forget "planning" the most logical path, UNLESS, you truely want to get your arse into an aeroplane, any aeroplane more than anything else in the world. If that's not the case, you may find the outcome in this brave new world of ours something less than what you might expect.
Not being negative, but I am flying more and more with people that have skipped points A,B,....gone straight to F, and are now asking, "...so, is this all there is?"
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Krusty, very well said, I can't agree more. I was already gliding by 15 and hanging around airports every chance I could get. I still love the smell of Jet fuel fumes in the morning!!!!
I always keep an eye out for these types of threads for amusement purposes not for the answers that pertain to the original question. The barrage of spelling police that must scan these threads day & night proof reading is amazing!!..............sad, real sad!
Spelling & grammar are overrated but seeing as flying skills are almost taking a back seat to what's needed to control a plane these days then I guess one must be correct right down to the dots & I's :-(
I'm surprised that some people don't use spell check here just to avoid this very situation.
'K34' you said it all
".............flying used to be fun Lou, it really was. You know pilots used to take real pride in just 'getting' there............." (or words to that effect) And the name of the movie those words came from was???................this ought to be good My all time fav movie:-)
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Spelling & grammar are overrated but seeing as flying skills are almost taking a back seat to what's needed to control a plane these days then I guess one must be correct right down to the dots & I's :-(
I'm surprised that some people don't use spell check here just to avoid this very situation.
'K34' you said it all
".............flying used to be fun Lou, it really was. You know pilots used to take real pride in just 'getting' there............." (or words to that effect) And the name of the movie those words came from was???................this ought to be good
My all time fav movie:-)Wmk2
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Nooby, if yours is a genuine enquiry, welcome. I remember trying to get useful info about an aviation career when I started out.
I'll keep it brief.
1. Take and Pass English and "Real" Maths in Year 12 this year.
If you pass Year 12 English and "real" Mathematics this year, you will meet and exceed the minimum current education standard for all Australian employers of pilots.
The following Australian companies specify completed Undergraduate degree as an employment requirement:
(none)
The following companies specify minimum Year 12 school requirements:
Defence Forces minimum criteria
Qantas Direct Entry Pilot Minimum Criteria
Qantas Cadet Entry Minimum Criteria
QantasLink Minimum Criteria
Australian companies that have NO minimum schooling requirement:
Jetstar Minimum Criteria
Virgin Blue Recruitment: Attention
Cobham Airline Services
Skywest minimum criteria
Get the picture?
The great majority of Australian pilots DO NOT have university qualifications. They are not needed for flying aeroplanes. Flying is a practical task. Commercial Pilot License and Air Transport Pilot License are awarded after gaining practical experience, in addition to passing some [u]government]/b] exams.
University qualifications are useful. Just ask the Universities
But not required. Larger flying organisations depend on people in support roles that have experience plus Uni quals. You can get them later if you are interested in management, planning, safety, etc.
2. Go see a doctor.
Click on this list of CASA approved doctors find a doctor near you, and take a medical exam for a CASA Class 1 Medical Certificate. It will cost a few $$. Get used to it!
Tell the doctor you are considering a career as a Pilot. You would like to know if there are any foreseeable physical obstacles that would kill your ambition to work as a pilot.
Once you find that hearing deficiency, that eyesight problem, don't be immediately discouraged. Many pilots have minor physical problems that are manageable.
3. Clean up your act.
I've had a few friends that have been embarrassed when indiscretions committed when they were young and stupid, came back to haunt them.
Drink driving, speeding cars, petty theft, recreational drug use, pub fights, etc, don't look good at interview. Pretty soon we may be adding dumb and offensive Facebook and Twitter posts!
4. Get you @rse in or near anything that flies.
This is a 'doing' business. Get yourself on, near, or in an aeroplane in any capacity. And be 'doing' aviation on your way to being a pilot.
Hangar rat. Refueller. Air Training Corps. Volunteer at an aero museum. Flight Attendant. Etc.
Good luck!
I'll keep it brief.
1. Take and Pass English and "Real" Maths in Year 12 this year.
If you pass Year 12 English and "real" Mathematics this year, you will meet and exceed the minimum current education standard for all Australian employers of pilots.
The following Australian companies specify completed Undergraduate degree as an employment requirement:
(none)
The following companies specify minimum Year 12 school requirements:
Defence Forces minimum criteria
Qantas Direct Entry Pilot Minimum Criteria
Qantas Cadet Entry Minimum Criteria
QantasLink Minimum Criteria
Australian companies that have NO minimum schooling requirement:
Jetstar Minimum Criteria
Virgin Blue Recruitment: Attention
Cobham Airline Services
Skywest minimum criteria
Get the picture?
The great majority of Australian pilots DO NOT have university qualifications. They are not needed for flying aeroplanes. Flying is a practical task. Commercial Pilot License and Air Transport Pilot License are awarded after gaining practical experience, in addition to passing some [u]government]/b] exams.
University qualifications are useful. Just ask the Universities
But not required. Larger flying organisations depend on people in support roles that have experience plus Uni quals. You can get them later if you are interested in management, planning, safety, etc. 2. Go see a doctor.
Click on this list of CASA approved doctors find a doctor near you, and take a medical exam for a CASA Class 1 Medical Certificate. It will cost a few $$. Get used to it!
Tell the doctor you are considering a career as a Pilot. You would like to know if there are any foreseeable physical obstacles that would kill your ambition to work as a pilot.
Once you find that hearing deficiency, that eyesight problem, don't be immediately discouraged. Many pilots have minor physical problems that are manageable.
3. Clean up your act.
I've had a few friends that have been embarrassed when indiscretions committed when they were young and stupid, came back to haunt them.
Drink driving, speeding cars, petty theft, recreational drug use, pub fights, etc, don't look good at interview. Pretty soon we may be adding dumb and offensive Facebook and Twitter posts!
4. Get you @rse in or near anything that flies.
This is a 'doing' business. Get yourself on, near, or in an aeroplane in any capacity. And be 'doing' aviation on your way to being a pilot.
Hangar rat. Refueller. Air Training Corps. Volunteer at an aero museum. Flight Attendant. Etc.
Good luck!
'CRN' that's cheating but yr 50% correct but what version of the movie (as in there was a re-make a few years ago) & whom was the actor that said that quote & to whom was he saying it to? There now go Google 'till ya hearts content:-)
'Nooby' if yr keen then just go for it. Nobody can answer yr Q's exactly. Life always throws curve balls at you anyway so you never know where one thing can lead you too.
Flying is what you make of it. Some make it a science others just go to work get the task done then go home & think nothing of it. Flying an airliner isn't rocket science so if you get to the pointy end then you must be reasonably okay at this flying game or the mired of 'net's along the way would have pulled you up long before the cockpit door slams shut
Some of the most respected & highly experienced pilots lay on the side of some hill out there so it's not all about the manipulative skills of today's modern Airliner:-)
Wmk2
'Nooby' if yr keen then just go for it. Nobody can answer yr Q's exactly. Life always throws curve balls at you anyway so you never know where one thing can lead you too.
Flying is what you make of it. Some make it a science others just go to work get the task done then go home & think nothing of it.
Flying an airliner isn't rocket science so if you get to the pointy end then you must be reasonably okay at this flying game or the mired of 'net's along the way would have pulled you up long before the cockpit door slams shutSome of the most respected & highly experienced pilots lay on the side of some hill out there so it's not all about the manipulative skills of today's modern Airliner:-)
Wmk2
There is an option to edit both posts and topics so the opportunity exists for people to correct their mistakes. Nooby, if you edit your topic to "Becoming an Airline Pilot", then the critics will have to remove their posts as they will no longer make any sense.
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Thank you again everyone for your insightful and much appreciated input!
I thought a degree may be an advantage when applying for promotions, eg. Command, alongside appropriate flight hours and licensing?
To be honest I am tossing up between medicine and aviation. I get a thrill out of flying, but also out of working with people. My concern is, do pilots really get to communicate with passengers?
I know I must sound naive, but haven't we all at one stage or another? I just think it is best I sound naive now and find out what I need to know, then not ask and finding out being a professional pilot is not for me.
I thought a degree may be an advantage when applying for promotions, eg. Command, alongside appropriate flight hours and licensing?
To be honest I am tossing up between medicine and aviation. I get a thrill out of flying, but also out of working with people. My concern is, do pilots really get to communicate with passengers?
I know I must sound naive, but haven't we all at one stage or another? I just think it is best I sound naive now and find out what I need to know, then not ask and finding out being a professional pilot is not for me.
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Spelling & grammar are overrated
Language and the ability to effectively communicate ideas in verbal and written form, along with the capacity for imagination, are all that set us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom.
Rant over (and apologies for perpetuating thread drift).
............gee 'bunglerat' keep ya shirt on there!
You sound like my old Engrish teacher back in the bad 'ole days where we used to get 6 of the best just for talking in class:-) I was one of the dumbest kids at school, true story. Failed near every Engrish & arithmetic test there was but I still got to fly a plane & i write for a Mag so again Spelling & Grammar are over rated just depends on whom is reading yr CV I guess someone just as dumb or someone with a dictionary up his ass
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You sound like my old Engrish teacher back in the bad 'ole days where we used to get 6 of the best just for talking in class:-) I was one of the dumbest kids at school, true story. Failed near every Engrish & arithmetic test there was but I still got to fly a plane & i write for a Mag so again Spelling & Grammar are over rated just depends on whom is reading yr CV I guess someone just as dumb or someone with a dictionary up his ass
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Add to to, too and two
there, their and they're.
The problem I've got with it is the idiot teachers that are either teaching them this or letting the poor dears think that it's ok to communicate in this fashion?
Bet there is a bit of proof reading going on with your articles there Wal?
there, their and they're.
The problem I've got with it is the idiot teachers that are either teaching them this or letting the poor dears think that it's ok to communicate in this fashion?
Bet there is a bit of proof reading going on with your articles there Wal?
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Nooby, if you have the choice between medicine and aviation for chist sake take medicine. You will own your own plane after about 10 years.
Your income is protected as a medico, as a pilot you will be copping it up the jaxxy for the rest of your life
Your income is protected as a medico, as a pilot you will be copping it up the jaxxy for the rest of your life