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Old 2nd Dec 2010, 05:51
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Thunderstorm chaos

Have a look at the aircraft movements on webtrack when the storm hit Melbourne today.
WebTrak: Melbourne International Airport
You need to uncheck the 'show current flights' box first then put in 02/12/2010 @ 2:28pm. Put the replay speed up otherwise you'll be watching forever.
They eventually come back overhead for a left base 09.

I forgot to mention that flight info can be obtained by placing the mouse cursor over the plane or clicking 'display' and then 'aircraft info tags'
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Have a look at about 150 radius of Albury from about 5pm local today
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They eventually come back overhead for a left base 09.
My god! I hope they programmed the FMS for that!
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they were all holding over Port Phillip Bay!!!
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I was shocked to see light aircraft in MB's circuit as a real mother of a black cloud hovered over, like the alien spaceship out of "District 9". As the downdrafts and lightning started to zip down from a funnel within the menacing mass, the planes were pushed earthwards like by some giant invisible hand and they started to scatter in all directions to avoid it. Scary.
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Whilst we are on the subject on webtrak and Melbourne Airport, check out today from 1740 or so for about 20 mins - a C441 hanging around flying pretty low. Ends up over the top of the airport at about 1757.

Anyone have any ideas what it was doing, and who for? Was it something to do with airservices? (Just curious as I saw it in the flesh, and couldn't work it out!)

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Whilst we are on the subject on webtrak and Melbourne Airport, check out today from 1740 or so for about 20 mins - a C441 hanging around flying pretty low. Ends up over the top of the airport at about 1757.

Anyone have any ideas what it was doing, and who for? Was it something to do with airservices? (Just curious as I saw it in the flesh, and couldn't work it out!)
ZigZag you were not the only one to see that today.

I was at a house auction in Clayon (sort-of near Moorabbin for those elsewhere), rego was VH-VED. First realised it was there when the auctioneer stopped the auction and looked up to see what the hell was making such a loud noise, fearing for his life as it got louder (seriously) thinking it was dropping in to join us. It appeared from the south-east at around 250-300ft if that, in a 45 degree bank with rego clearly visible. Didn't know what it was at the time as it flashed past so quickly at that low level.
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I also thought it was in trouble, but as it powered up and banked away hard, I thought it looked impressive, then Mrs-XXX commented "gee that looked good!"
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VH-VED like a lot of other A/C is on a preffered list to be used by certain Govt agencies.Perhaps they where looking for rouge auctioneers 'XXX'


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Yep its a CASA procedure revalidation mission. They are low level checking out known obstacles and looking for unknown ones.

You should see them around most of country Victoria over the coming days.

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And how do you score that job!Low level fly bys over built up areas approved by CASA!Im in..
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I saw it doing a low pass along RW 34 at YMML on Sunday. Wondered what on earth was going on..
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Interesting web page! Do they do a similar one for Perth and the other major Oz cities? And if so how does one access it??
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More TS antics in Brisbane tonight (15 December). QF126 AKL-BNE 5.05pm for rwy01 makes a meal of it.
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Wouldn't say he made a meal of it.
Lined up visually but xwind / downwind prevented a stabilised approach.
Went around as he should, well done.
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(15 December). QF126 AKL-BNE 5.05pm for rwy01 makes a meal of it.
The only "plane" (apart from jaba in the weeds out west) I can see at that time is a 734 BNE>OOL attempting to land on 01. I sincerely hope they arrest the PIC because he must have had the AP out to do that!

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Without placing too much faith in the accuracy of webtrack recordings.
If you time his descent rate from 1,000m alt down to 153m a solid 1,000fpm - all ok. A little highish on approach there too, - but still ok. At 153m (let's call that about 500ft) the track over the ground indicates that he is 600m left of the extended centreline for RW01. At that time YBBN had aircraft holding as a TS (described by the BOM meteorologist on the evening news, as the storm seasons first 'Supercell'), passed the SE boundary of the airport.
No arguments about doing the Go-Around, good decision.
Why was the aircraft out to the left of the LLZ and making those turns on approach? Was he dodging around a very active TS that was dropping 5cm hail stones at that same time?
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Old 15th Dec 2010, 11:21
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Why was the aircraft out to the left of the LLZ and making those turns on approach?
It's pretty obvious he wasn't doing an ILS...isn't it? May I submit that he was doing a visual approach keeping away from...perhaps inclement weather to the SE of final...
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Of course you are correct Bloggsie. However do passengers buy tickets to fly QANTAS (OH sorry Jetconnect) to race Thunderstorms to their destination.
The thrust of my post is, If you are that desperate to continue an approach to and below 500 ft in those conditions then I've got the wrong idea on the QF safety policy.
ps. Earlier aircraft declined the offer of making an approach as did following aircraft until the wx had cleared.
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