Parking Etiquette
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Cheers Guys (and Gals),
Interesting to see the general opinion out there. Most seem to agree with b) which is what my opinion was, with a few others throwing in a few worthy points along the way. Said tie downs are only left when returning at the end of the day so not hogging a spot that won't be used overnight, or for a couple of days. At least now I know it's not just me being too overly precious about it. Always been suitable alternatives at the aerodrome in question, when its happened.
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Interesting to see the general opinion out there. Most seem to agree with b) which is what my opinion was, with a few others throwing in a few worthy points along the way. Said tie downs are only left when returning at the end of the day so not hogging a spot that won't be used overnight, or for a couple of days. At least now I know it's not just me being too overly precious about it. Always been suitable alternatives at the aerodrome in question, when its happened.
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Yes, good question, and good points above, namely... call ahead, or ask when you're there. It would be nice, like someone said, if there was more in the ERSA (local parking info, bowser locations etc...). Would also be nice if ropes weren't left around for the props to munch up... but C'est la vie.
On another point made in this post relating to airmanship, doing run-ups at Canberra can be the source of ramp rage and obscene hand gestures.
a) Obviously you don't do your run-ups on the grass (A/C parked close behind and plenty of stones etc...);
b) If the winds are favourable, I try to pull up in the corner near the bowser after fueling and do the run-ups there, but it's still not completely out of the way, and 9 times out of 10 you've got a westerly (which isn't favourable to that position);
c) On a weekend (particularly Sunday), the hard-stand (which is where you're supposed to do you're run-ups), is full with resting RPT A/C, and the spots further back from the bowser end, which are roomier and better suited for run-up's aren't available.
So what do you do? Unfortunately it's just one of those things. Hold on to your ailerons and cover your eyes for two minutes (there aren't too many stones), and we can all get on with our day (airmanship works both ways I suppose). It would be awesome if Canberra had a couple of small GA run-up area's closer to the runways (especially when it's hot, and you're taxiing for 5 mins).
Cheers.
Nads.
On another point made in this post relating to airmanship, doing run-ups at Canberra can be the source of ramp rage and obscene hand gestures.
a) Obviously you don't do your run-ups on the grass (A/C parked close behind and plenty of stones etc...);
b) If the winds are favourable, I try to pull up in the corner near the bowser after fueling and do the run-ups there, but it's still not completely out of the way, and 9 times out of 10 you've got a westerly (which isn't favourable to that position);
c) On a weekend (particularly Sunday), the hard-stand (which is where you're supposed to do you're run-ups), is full with resting RPT A/C, and the spots further back from the bowser end, which are roomier and better suited for run-up's aren't available.
So what do you do? Unfortunately it's just one of those things. Hold on to your ailerons and cover your eyes for two minutes (there aren't too many stones), and we can all get on with our day (airmanship works both ways I suppose). It would be awesome if Canberra had a couple of small GA run-up area's closer to the runways (especially when it's hot, and you're taxiing for 5 mins).
Cheers.
Nads.
My biggest annoyance are the guys who fly in, taxy for fuel and then leave the aircraft parked in front of the bowser while they go for coffee, a leak or something else that is nowhere in sight of their aeroplane. Seems to be worst at Mildura.
Parking can be hard to figure and I think its nice to ask even if the situation looks clear. But, if I arrive near dusk and there's no one around and I'm leaving again early then there's a fair bet that any vacant spot will be OK. At the other end, if I'm there for a few days I'll either have rung ahead to sort out parking or seek someone out to ask.
Parking can be hard to figure and I think its nice to ask even if the situation looks clear. But, if I arrive near dusk and there's no one around and I'm leaving again early then there's a fair bet that any vacant spot will be OK. At the other end, if I'm there for a few days I'll either have rung ahead to sort out parking or seek someone out to ask.
Defnitely B,
You parked in my space, which was reserved, you will have your tie downs padlocked with a little note that leads you on a scavenger hunt for the key, Usually took about 15 minutes, and the lock would normally be taken, but it was worth it to see these inconsiderate morons walking from one end of the apron to the other.
Alternatively, it is not uncommon for the visiting aircraft who couldn't be ar5ed to ask if it was ok would find themselves hopelessly parked in due to a shortage of spaces...sorry...
If you're one of those rude pr1cks that do use someone else's tie downs, then perhaps you deserve it. Define all sorts of things? I know that my tie downs used to have an aversion to any other aircraft except mine, they would untie themselves and work their way back to my aircraft, extraordinary!!!
j3
You parked in my space, which was reserved, you will have your tie downs padlocked with a little note that leads you on a scavenger hunt for the key, Usually took about 15 minutes, and the lock would normally be taken, but it was worth it to see these inconsiderate morons walking from one end of the apron to the other.
Alternatively, it is not uncommon for the visiting aircraft who couldn't be ar5ed to ask if it was ok would find themselves hopelessly parked in due to a shortage of spaces...sorry...
but whatever you do dont use their ropes - all sorts of things can happen to your plane during the night
j3
Although I would never upset the status quo and always will ask first (it's polite and good airmanship as stated), when parking is not reserved, what gives someone the right to reserve a space? Not a criticism as such just trying to understand as I don't often leave my aircrafts home aerodrome (where they have reserved spaces).
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Not in front of a Hangar!
A few years ago, in the Kimberley's, a youngish pilot parked their aircraft near the hangar that had our aircraft parked inside. The following day, not long before we were due to depart, said youngish pilot departed, along with runups with the prop wash directly into the hangar.
Result - one 4 week old, brand new windscreen, sand blasted, which had to be replaced before the next flight. For f----s sake !!!
For Ch----s sake, have a look where you have parked. As you walk away from your aircraft, turn around and have a look where you have parked, and the surrounding area, and ask yourself, is it safe, will I do any damage when I start up, etc etc.
Please have a really, really, good look at where your prop wash will end up when you do your runups.
Oh yes, and it cost the said pilot some $5000 - and that was a good few years ago.
Chocks away chaps!!
Result - one 4 week old, brand new windscreen, sand blasted, which had to be replaced before the next flight. For f----s sake !!!
For Ch----s sake, have a look where you have parked. As you walk away from your aircraft, turn around and have a look where you have parked, and the surrounding area, and ask yourself, is it safe, will I do any damage when I start up, etc etc.
Please have a really, really, good look at where your prop wash will end up when you do your runups.
Oh yes, and it cost the said pilot some $5000 - and that was a good few years ago.
Chocks away chaps!!
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Spirax, chill...and no need to be sorry...
It was a playful little joke, aimed at Wally. I'm well aware that aviation is no place for rabid feminism, and I'm quite happy to be called an airman in the air, and a minxtress on the ground ...
GWaS
GWAS... sorry but airmanship is one of those no sexist words which uses "man" as in mankind, not as in male or female.
GWaS
It is common courtesy to call ahead and check, and I can advise from an aerodrome operator's perspective it's extremely annoying when aircraft turn up out of the blue, expecting to find a spot to park with no prior notice.
Topend3, yup and the problem is made worse when you have an apron / parking area the size of a postage stamp . Once had what seemed half of the Australian bonanza fleet turn up unannounced. Luckily we were on hand to help double park them into some tight areas.
. Once had what seemed half of the Australian bonanza fleet turn up unannounced. Luckily we were on hand to help double park them into some tight areas.
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Or go to Charleville, they fuel you up, feed you....and sometimes put you in the hangar....or plenty of tie down spots!
Talking to a fellow from Parkes yesterdat while hanging around YNBR......he and his wife just travelled for 3 weeks all over Northern Oz.....comment was YBCV is the best place for visitors. Can't agree more!
Talking to a fellow from Parkes yesterdat while hanging around YNBR......he and his wife just travelled for 3 weeks all over Northern Oz.....comment was YBCV is the best place for visitors. Can't agree more!
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Neither (A) or (B) is the correct answer.
The correct answer is to ask someone. Any place where there is no one around to ask, will have plenty of empty parking spots.
By asking, people will respect that you have taken the time.. and shown courtesy to try and do something that will not inconvenience others.
I have often ended up parking overnight in someone's nice hangar,
simply by asking where It was OK to park, and having a good yarn to the
locals.
The "I pay the same charges/They don't own the place/" attitude is simply bad manners.
The correct answer is to ask someone. Any place where there is no one around to ask, will have plenty of empty parking spots.
By asking, people will respect that you have taken the time.. and shown courtesy to try and do something that will not inconvenience others.
I have often ended up parking overnight in someone's nice hangar,
simply by asking where It was OK to park, and having a good yarn to the
locals.
The "I pay the same charges/They don't own the place/" attitude is simply bad manners.
Tell you a story...
large regional public airfield, plenty of spaces... needed an overnight spot on a hardstand, no-body to ask, parked in a particular spot close to the gate - no reserve parking at this particular place.
Next morning - Pilot door torn at the hinge.
Police investigation - nada albeit with a suspect.
I'll select B unless I'm sleeping in the back!
large regional public airfield, plenty of spaces... needed an overnight spot on a hardstand, no-body to ask, parked in a particular spot close to the gate - no reserve parking at this particular place.
Next morning - Pilot door torn at the hinge.
Police investigation - nada albeit with a suspect.
I'll select B unless I'm sleeping in the back!
