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Old 21st Mar 2011, 16:27
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AAHHHH yes, the open day!

From all reports, quite a buzz and energy.

Any feedback from the efforts on the day?

It appears a go-around may have been achieved, first stage of flap up.
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 00:34
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I did hear instructors grumbling a little they weren't getting paid for TIF's.

So maybe thats a way to cut costs - dont pay the instructors

SHAME !!!
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 02:13
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I did hear instructors grumbling a little they weren't getting paid for TIF's.

So maybe thats a way to cut costs - dont pay the instructors

SHAME !!!
Are you still talking about RACWA?
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 02:31
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Well.......yes
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 05:03
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I did hear instructors grumbling a little they weren't getting paid for TIF's.
Noooo surely they would be paid to fly a TIF?
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 07:08
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Sad I know, I wonder if the customers are aware of this? Most of them won't be as they see it as "training" for Jetstar

Not the only place at JT that doesn't pay for TIFs - No that is a lie, maybe you get $10 (if the boss/accounts likes you)

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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 13:18
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When I worked there I was always paid for TIF's though it was only 0.5 or 1.0hr regardless of what VDO the flight ended up being. Perhaps it was an arrangment for that particular day? Or just general grumbling?
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 11:05
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I did hear instructors grumbling a little they weren't getting paid for TIF's.

So maybe thats a way to cut costs - dont pay the instructors
What is the matter with people? Come on guys what about saying "No I won't fly for free?". Just make yourselves unavailable to do flights for free. Isn't that why you got a Commercial Licence in the first place? To be paid to fly? Unbelievable.
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 12:24
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VG dont pay any attention to WC hes a troll just trying to stir up ****. The instructors do get paid for their flying at RACWA
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 02:07
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Thanks for the kind words Aeromuz - you clearly dont know sht.

Have a chat with a few of the new Gr 3's and get it from the horses mouth.

A CPL holder with a Gr 3 rating gets paid just how much for a TIF ?????

Once again - looking skywards for strength and resolution......or maye a lightning bolt
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 11:52
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Gee I would've done it for free just to get back up there, someone else paying for my flying sounds good for a change
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Gee I would've done it for free just to get back up there, someone else paying for my flying sounds good for a change
Attitudes like that are precisely why this is no longer a career but now a hobby. In the context of a true "club" I guess it is ok for all participants to give up their time for free, but under those conditions it ceases to be the career path that RACWA so successfully markets to the (once) naive like me.

Spend all this money to earn nothing but get to sit in plane for free! Who pays for your rent and food mate?


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Old 27th Mar 2011, 08:18
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Sit in a plane for free - exactly. Short sighted and spoling it for the rest of the industry.

Imagine taking a plane to the skies, thru one of the busiest airports in Australia, with unsuspecting public entrusting their loved ones. To take off, fly, maybe even aerobat, and bring them home in one peice.

A proffessional pilot qulaification is required for this, not a GFPT. A quialified Commercail Pilot License that requires time, effort and considerable $$ to acheive.

So tel me again.....why you are so keen to fly for free ??

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Old 27th Mar 2011, 11:42
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Some would argue that the current hire rates are still below cost on a commercial rate-of-return basis. Neglible chance since a year ago. Not even covering CPI increases.
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Of which I have thanks Wiley, I am quite aware of the money I've spent so far.

However, when I haven't flown in a while.. regardless of whether it be a TIF or not, I would like to not pay to fly an aircraft for once.

Bear in mind I am not employed by the industry yet, so this option sounds better than me sitting at home doing nothing.

It is different when normally PAID and EMPLOYED instructors say 'ok I will do it for free', agree? Don't get me wrong, when I do land a job I plan on earning money.

Oh yeh.. almost forgot


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Old 27th Mar 2011, 13:55
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When is the next D-day ?
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Nirak do you ever get bored of asking the same question every 3-4 days?

So far they are still going, let's just wait and see
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 16:25
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No, I don't.....

Watching the managers from a distance sweating on and about their self-created mess .... and sadly uprooting many peoples lives.

Sadly, caused by just a few individuals, who are, even more distraughtingly, some of them still employed there.

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Old 28th Mar 2011, 05:34
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Of which I have thanks Wiley, I am quite aware of the money I've spent so far.

However, when I haven't flown in a while.. regardless of whether it be a TIF or not, I would like to not pay to fly an aircraft for once.

Bear in mind I am not employed by the industry yet, so this option sounds better than me sitting at home doing nothing.

It is different when normally PAID and EMPLOYED instructors say 'ok I will do it for free', agree? Don't get me wrong, when I do land a job I plan on earning money.

Oh yeh.. almost forgot
Considering you can't legally do a TIF without being employed, standardized & prof checked as an instructor at a flying school and hold a current instructor rating, you shouldn't have to do them for nothing and you should be paid the award rate or higher.

Do the managers & ops staff etc come in and do a days work without getting paid?
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 09:09
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Nirak haven't you worked out that fellow ppruners don't care for your posts. I seen no reply's to a thread you commenced some time ago.....

Give it rest. If you've nothing substantial to contribute, to discussions or otherwise, then don't.
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