Is RACWA on finals? YOU WERE WARNED!!
So, according to the CASA register these four year old Sportstars are owned and operated by Australian International Flying College Pty Ltd, who do not appear on AOC searches, who are shown in the register with a PO Box in Floreat but who have an address listed on internet business listings as 31, Eagle Drive.
Well, Air BP is 25 Eagle Drive, and Air Australia, the next building along, is No.33.
And ECU belongs to Kent St High School.
So...who are Australian International Flying College Pty Ltd, what is their connection with RACWA, how can they operate out of an address that doesn't exist and how is cross-hiring going to help RACWA's balance sheet??
Well, Air BP is 25 Eagle Drive, and Air Australia, the next building along, is No.33.
And ECU belongs to Kent St High School.
So...who are Australian International Flying College Pty Ltd, what is their connection with RACWA, how can they operate out of an address that doesn't exist and how is cross-hiring going to help RACWA's balance sheet??
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"..Well, Air BP is 25 Eagle Drive, and Air Australia, the next building along, is No.33...."
You missed out the ubiquitous Airflite. They will have access to all the necessary finance and acquisition resources.
From what I can work out the sportstars are offered at roughly the same hire-cost as the venerable 152s but they will cost a lot less to run so they could be highly profitable. If they get broken, need servicing, give 'em back? Landing fees should be lower....?
However you have to be taught how to wear one (creak, groan...) and then pay a few hundreds of dollars to be taught how to fly it which is a bit of a disincentive if you are already qualified for a 152. Then there will be the interesting exercise of maintaining currency?!?
From what sunfish says you would want to make sure that your excess policy is up-to-date.
You missed out the ubiquitous Airflite. They will have access to all the necessary finance and acquisition resources.
From what I can work out the sportstars are offered at roughly the same hire-cost as the venerable 152s but they will cost a lot less to run so they could be highly profitable. If they get broken, need servicing, give 'em back? Landing fees should be lower....?
However you have to be taught how to wear one (creak, groan...) and then pay a few hundreds of dollars to be taught how to fly it which is a bit of a disincentive if you are already qualified for a 152. Then there will be the interesting exercise of maintaining currency?!?
From what sunfish says you would want to make sure that your excess policy is up-to-date.
Airflite are no.37. Another search shows China Southern as 31-35 Eagle Drive so the addresses don't seem to go in number order along the srtip there. Wierd. I thought Barney's connection with CSWAFC was over a long time ago.
So those were the Sportstars that were up at Northam then...
So those were the Sportstars that were up at Northam then...
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RACWA continues to lurch from one disaster to another as it tries to find a way out of the mess it's STILL in.
Apparently there's no IFR training available now! WTF? What on earth is happening there?
I feel so sorry for the staff there having to work under the threat of closure. How can they be expected to perform at their peak under those circumstances?
If there was an Oscar for incompetence, those responsible at RACWA would surely get one.
When are the Committee going to tell the membership what's going on. At a critical time like this, it's our right to know, and not just the fawning platitudes the president writes in Tarmac Topics either. This mob of amateurs is a bad as the last - tell 'em nothing until it's a fait accompli and then let them squeal all they like. Do we still own MURRAYFIELD? Has WAAC been sold? Is it closing? Are new students being enrolled? Is there a plan to get us out of the financial crap? Any comments Mr President?? Nah! Didn't think so.
Apparently there's no IFR training available now! WTF? What on earth is happening there?
I feel so sorry for the staff there having to work under the threat of closure. How can they be expected to perform at their peak under those circumstances?
If there was an Oscar for incompetence, those responsible at RACWA would surely get one.
When are the Committee going to tell the membership what's going on. At a critical time like this, it's our right to know, and not just the fawning platitudes the president writes in Tarmac Topics either. This mob of amateurs is a bad as the last - tell 'em nothing until it's a fait accompli and then let them squeal all they like. Do we still own MURRAYFIELD? Has WAAC been sold? Is it closing? Are new students being enrolled? Is there a plan to get us out of the financial crap? Any comments Mr President?? Nah! Didn't think so.
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C'mon Mooney you are a supporter, now I don't mind being told I was wrong by really qualified folk, but you are beyond the pale, turn coat.
Deal with facts, it is much smarter than where you are !!!!!!!!!!!
Deal with facts, it is much smarter than where you are !!!!!!!!!!!
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Joker - there's nothing speculative in what I said. I was indeed a supporter but what is happening there now IS beyond the pale to use your expression. Talk to the people mate and learn. Oh that's right, your not a member anymore. You resigned in a fit of child like petulance. Such a grown up.
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Both Racwa and WAAC management are the masters of this mess, whether by incompetence, ignorance, arrogance or all of them.
They just under-estimated the consequences of their actions, painted themselves into a corner and have no idea or plan on how to get out of it.
The 4 sages of a problem:
Management denies there is a problem (there is no problem)
Management minimizes the problem (it is just a little hic-up)
Management admits there is a problem (it is a MASSIVE problem)
The last stage is about to begin:
Blaming everybody else .........
They just under-estimated the consequences of their actions, painted themselves into a corner and have no idea or plan on how to get out of it.
The 4 sages of a problem:
Management denies there is a problem (there is no problem)
Management minimizes the problem (it is just a little hic-up)
Management admits there is a problem (it is a MASSIVE problem)
The last stage is about to begin:
Blaming everybody else .........
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Sportstars
I'd be a bit concerned if the Sportstars at RACWA are Barny's. Hope the RACWA LAME's have been over 'em closely: they've sat outside (under shade-cloth) for a couple of years at Northam, and have heard rumor that one of them was found to have considerable amount of water in a wing at one point.
A step in the right direction perhaps though -- some 'newer' aircraft might be just what the club needs to get more people through the door.
A step in the right direction perhaps though -- some 'newer' aircraft might be just what the club needs to get more people through the door.
short flights long nights
Wait..let me get this right..Sportstars from Barney...this is what is going to save us???
I flash back to the Titanic sinking...."Captain, the ship has a big f
king hole..how can we fix it??...."Its OK crew grab the first class pillows and stick them in the hole..that will stop the water coming in...I hope...if not ummm..get the band to play a few songs..."
I really think that the plot is lost..I dont want that..but I fear the worst...
And I have to continue..is it true there is no IFR training available???...what are we the North Korean Aero Club..please tell me its not true.......
I flash back to the Titanic sinking...."Captain, the ship has a big f
king hole..how can we fix it??...."Its OK crew grab the first class pillows and stick them in the hole..that will stop the water coming in...I hope...if not ummm..get the band to play a few songs..."I really think that the plot is lost..I dont want that..but I fear the worst...
And I have to continue..is it true there is no IFR training available???...what are we the North Korean Aero Club..please tell me its not true.......
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is it true there is no IFR training available???
And I hear that at least one of their twins (PNT) is up for sale.
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"The Avonvalley Advocate" :
Northam flight school dream over
25 Aug, 2010 01:27 PM
AUSTRALIAN Flight Instructor School (AFITS) has severed its ties with Northam.Last week AFITS principal Barney Fernandes surrendered the lease on two Avon Community Development Foundation lots at the Northam aerodrome, the former Taurus Aviation hangar and the two training units with shelters at the southern end of the aerodrome.
The surrender brings to an end the drawn-out saga of Mr Fernandes' plans to establish a school in Northam to train high-quality flight instructors.
Mr Fernades brought four Czechoslovakian-built basic training aircraft to Northam.
He also received considerable financial support from the Avon Community Development Foundation (ACDF) and the Wheatbelt Development Commission (WDC).
However AFITS has no flight instructors and has trained no pilots.
ACDF owns the aerodrome infrastructure which Mr Fernandes was leasing.
Its chief executive Paul Tomlinson said the buildings were still a very valuable community asset.
“Aviation very much has a future in the Wheatbelt,” he said.
“We have other flight training organisations keenly interested in our facilities at the aerodrome.”
International Aviation Academy of Australia (IAAA) based at Jandakot presently has eight overseas trainee pilots at Northam.
It also as an agreement to train 25 West Papuans from the start of next year.
Meanwhile it is understood that Mr Fernandes has not abandoned his ambitious plans and is in discussions with another flight training school in Bunbury.
Northam flight school dream over
25 Aug, 2010 01:27 PM
AUSTRALIAN Flight Instructor School (AFITS) has severed its ties with Northam.Last week AFITS principal Barney Fernandes surrendered the lease on two Avon Community Development Foundation lots at the Northam aerodrome, the former Taurus Aviation hangar and the two training units with shelters at the southern end of the aerodrome.
The surrender brings to an end the drawn-out saga of Mr Fernandes' plans to establish a school in Northam to train high-quality flight instructors.
Mr Fernades brought four Czechoslovakian-built basic training aircraft to Northam.
He also received considerable financial support from the Avon Community Development Foundation (ACDF) and the Wheatbelt Development Commission (WDC).
However AFITS has no flight instructors and has trained no pilots.
ACDF owns the aerodrome infrastructure which Mr Fernandes was leasing.
Its chief executive Paul Tomlinson said the buildings were still a very valuable community asset.
“Aviation very much has a future in the Wheatbelt,” he said.
“We have other flight training organisations keenly interested in our facilities at the aerodrome.”
International Aviation Academy of Australia (IAAA) based at Jandakot presently has eight overseas trainee pilots at Northam.
It also as an agreement to train 25 West Papuans from the start of next year.
Meanwhile it is understood that Mr Fernandes has not abandoned his ambitious plans and is in discussions with another flight training school in Bunbury.
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"Meanwhile it is understood that Mr Fernandes has not abandoned his ambitious plans and is in discussions with another flight training school in Bunbury."
Hmmmmm, well there's only two of us down here on the field, and it wasn't BAC that was in discussion. The SportStars sat in the "others" hangar for months, then one day they were both flown away, nothing more to be heard.......
Hmmmmm, well there's only two of us down here on the field, and it wasn't BAC that was in discussion. The SportStars sat in the "others" hangar for months, then one day they were both flown away, nothing more to be heard.......
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I believe at least one operator at Jandakot got stung getting involved in Barney's little Northam adventure. Don't people ever learn?
Don't people ever learn?
25 West Papuans... Wonder which training organisation's educational visa they will be under? Last time I heard, said company "over trained" their instructors and they didn't hold a Cert IV in workplace assessment and training, they held a Cert VII
. So he told the Dept of Education and Dept of Imm when they were doing audits of the place..IAAA don't have 8 students either, more like 2 maybe 3? The rest went home or transferred. AS the brochure mentions living the "city life" in Northam and then failing to mention its over 1hr away from Perth.
BF has made alot of money out of the previous venture, nearly $1 million in government funding. Not too bad for an organisation that never existed, or had any plans to fly...
Looking forward to what the plans are with him and RACWA
