Ground operations at GAAPs post June 3 2010 - safer?

[das Uber Soldat]

Does the USA have many class D towers with airspace only 3nm in radius?

[peuce]

While we're at it ... lets drop this "we have to harmonise with the rest of the aviation world" crap!

It would be an interesting exercise to compare the alphabet airspaces in each aviation country .... and see who is actually harmonising

Even Class G is different between ICAO states ... some give IFR traffic, some don't ... some even control aircraft in G

The sooner we get honest with ourselves, drop the harmonising crap, and massage the alphabet to suit AUSTRALIA ... the better.

[Capn Bloggs]

Privateer (apt name),

There should be a taxi clearance not a taxi broadcast when the tower is in operation.

There is. Read your AIP.

If your issued specific exit instructions off the runway theres no need to report your location (really tower should hand ya to ground) Example Tower: VH-OZY exit taxiway Golf contact ground 119.2

And if not? Read your AIP.

If you exit and then contact ground.....yeah ICAO says tell'm where your at and where you wanna go.

So what? We use AIP as the rule-book.

No you don't need a clearance to cross an unlit runway at night when the tower is closed. When its closed D is no longer in effect.

I wonder who you would get a clearance off to cross an unlit runway at a non-towered airport?

And while I am on a rant....theres no bloody need to report how many POB's when you filed a bloody flight plan.

Yes there is. Read your AIP.

I suggest you direct your rant at AsA/CASA. We just do what the book says; A concept that you and your NAStronauts have trouble grasping.

[privateer01]

Capt. Boggs.

That was my point. Perhaps you missed the sarcasm directed at previous posts.

Oh except for the POB's I was serious about that. Sure the AIP calls for it however its still retarded and cloggs up the radio.

[Captain Nomad]

Oh except for the POB's I was serious about that. Sure the AIP calls for it however its still retarded and cloggs up the radio.

Not for those of us who have frequent, last-minute changes to POB...

[Awol57]

-and what would that be? Awol, not having a go at you...if you are busy elsewhere on a system that is only less than 6 weeks old, one does have to ask, where are your attentions most needed?

The fact the system is only 6 weeks old is part of the problem. We too are learning how best to manage it. Generally speaking SMC is also doing the COORD role (however once it starts ramping up we separate these jobs). This means we might be talking to the associated TCU or anyone else for that matter - which is why we split the jobs apart when it's busy.

This morning we had 12 aircraft taxiing for departures or circuits. There was also the odd arrival in the mix. The SMC is responsible for issuing each taxi clearance, a time check to all departing aircraft, writing up each strip for each aircraft, chasing up the correct readback from each aircraft (usually the most arduous part of the job at the moment while everyone learns the correct readback). There is a lot of heads down time whilst writing on the strips plus the fact we are generally looking after up to 10 aircraft for 2 separate runways.

It's just not always possible for us to be monitoring every single arrival to watch where they vacate is all I meant.

[mcgrath50]

Why are departing VFR aircraft given a time check, prior to Class D I always thought this was only an IFR thing?

[mirage3]

Time Checks

Because that's what CASA said had to happen. Nobody ever said it had to make sense.

[Awol57]

Prior to Class D it was only IFR but now, as with all Class D aerodromes, where an accurate time source is not available (for example a CATIS) we have to give all departing aircraft a time check.

[privateer01]

As already mentioned, show me a US Class D with Instrument Approaches that has only 3NM and 1500FT AGL, and abuts Class G.

Anyone?

Hello CASA? Hello?

There probably isn't one.

If you want an example of how it should work.......

Try KYIP and KDTW in Detroit.

8 Nm apart. KYIP is D and KDTW is B.