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Old 10th Jul 2010, 20:36
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WHO THE HELL DO YOU SEE WHEN SH#T HITS THE FAN LIKE THIS ??
If you don't like the price asked for a product, in our democratic, free market economy, you find an alternate supplier. That is competition.

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Old 11th Jul 2010, 04:09
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an all up hourly NAVEX rate of a tad under $ 300 PER HOUR LOG TIME is reasonable for a crusty 30 + year old single ??
Lets see now,
some variable costs are ;
reconditioned engine at around 30k over 2000 hours [$15/hr]
2 prop blades at around 15k over 1500 hours [$10/hr]
Fuel at (say) 30 l/hr at about $1.8/l [$54/hr]
100 hourly at $2000 [$20/hr]
which makes the motion subtotal $99/hr

Now, lets add some static costs ;
parking $4k/pa
insurance $5k/pa
repairs (allow) $5k/pa
building rental/repayment/leases (allow) 2k/month
non-flying staff $40k/pa
accountants/inspections/GST $10k/pa
which makes the static subtotal $88k/pa

If the aircraft flies 200hrs/pa, that makes the static cost about $440/hr making the grand cost total about $540/hr

so., actually your $300/hour is a bargain.



The above is obviously not true for every school or aircraft, and i've omitted stuff such as painting, interior refurbishment, avionics upgrades, etc, etc., but [wombat keeper it does give you an idea of just how freaking expensive it can be to operate an aircraft.
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Old 11th Jul 2010, 09:15
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The biggie.....unscheduled maintenance!
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Old 11th Jul 2010, 10:48
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Perhaps the invoice needs to be itemised transparently Wombat, i.e third party services ($ tell it like it is), organisation invoice and processing fees ($xx.00, or $xxxxx.00)?

Tea and bickies should always be complimentary/ duty of care/ by donation.
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