Random A380 question

[UnderneathTheRadar]

Hi all,

Looking at NOTAMs and noticed the following:

A380 OPERATIONS
EXCEPT AT YPDN, YSSY, YBBN, YMML, YBAS, YPPH, YPAD WHERE SPECIFIC
CALCULATIONS HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED, A380 PILOTS MUST USE LOC MDA IN
LIEU OF PUBLISHED ILS DA
FROM 06 040622 TO PERM

which has evolved from the last time I recall reading it in detail. Curious that they've surveyed Alice Springs - is this because it's a likely/designated alternate (for where?) or was it a case that they were just passing though?

Anyone know? (or care!)

UTR

[B772]

UTR. Why not expect the A380 at ASP or ADL at some stage in the future. In the past no one ever expected to see VC10 at ISA or a B747-400 at PHE.

[sleeve of wizard]

Enroute alternate in case of a medical emergency, fire on board etc

[Old Akro]

Crossing with the Flight Safety Magazine thread - Are you reading Notams in preference to Flight Safety Magazine?

[UnderneathTheRadar]

On balance, I find that the NOTAMS have slightly fewer errors than the FS mag!

Thanks for the info - can ASP actually support an A380? Or would they have to deal with that once it landed? Would it get airborne again (with PAX) on a hot sunny day?

UTR

[AussieNick]

night departure maybe?

you'd assume that if it has been nominated as a suitable alternate then the a/c will be able to depart.

[Capn Bloggs]

can ASP actually support an A380? Or would they have to deal with that once it landed? Would it get airborne again (with PAX) on a hot sunny day?

2400-odd m for an aircraft that can go thousands of miles? If it were going to MEL or SYD (not much fuel) I'd reckon it'd probably have about 1000m to spare - and that's at full flex, at 40°. Don't use me as your despatch officer though!

One of these big fellas can do it so I'd think a Dugong could as well:

[ozineurope]

Nowhere near as exciting as the AN out of CB!!

[Tankengine]

Runway may be fine but what about tarmac and taxiways?
{without a tug to do a 3 point turn}

[Trent 972]

The turning nodes are big enough to do a 180 turn and at ISA conditions and nil wind, the A/C could depart at up to approx. 493 tonnes (195 tonne payload). (At 35 degrees C. MTOW reduces to about 453 tonnes (that's a full pax load and about 100 tonnes of fuel, which is about 7.5 hours with reserves)). Aircraft is able to use a couple of the taxiways and apron. Weight of a bit over 500 tonne is pre-approved.
Alice Springs - no probs.

Capn Bloggs, In your scenario it would work out to be not quite full flex but close (5 degrees less than full) however the idea of flex is to remain at a balanced field length, therefore not much margin. (The A380 is one of the first aircraft to be certified to allow take-off thrust to be less than climb thrust.) On the other hand, at 'Full Loud' we would be in the Flight Levels before crossing the far end of the runway, figuratively speaking. When the dugong is empty, it goes up like 'a fart in a bath'.

[tomcat264]

Why are you surprised an A380 can operate out of Perth?? 747s have been have been operating on & off for years. Did you ever thing EK might want to operate an A380 once a day instead or 2 flights per day in a 777 & A345? The terminal is not set up for it but thats all at this point.
3 A380s have been to Perth so far.

[UnderneathTheRadar]

Who said anything about being surprised about Perth?

[halas]

The EK model is as many flights a day as possible to offer customer flexibility, and if extra slots are not available they put the sky-pig into use, like Soul, Jeddah, Toronto, Paris, Heathrow......

As of September it will be 2 x 777

EK diverted a 380 into PH in December.

halas