importance of charts?
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importance of charts?
hi there
can anyone comment on the necessity/importance of all these charts - ERC,PCA,TAC - for the ATPL airlaw exam?
to bring all of them in seems a bit excessive to me!
with thanks
pd
can anyone comment on the necessity/importance of all these charts - ERC,PCA,TAC - for the ATPL airlaw exam?
to bring all of them in seems a bit excessive to me!
with thanks
pd
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Take them all. Every last one of them.
Easy way to find the table of cruising levels (RVSM) as well as looking at an Air Law scenario in a practical sense.
BTW for flight planning, although the problem is supposedly fixed as CASA exams are supposed to give you the distance from an aerodrome to a point shown on the ERC there was a time (and there may still be a time in the future) when you couldn't measure the actual distance between cities covered by a VTC without the VTC using just an ERC. Ttry getting the YPAD-YPPF distance using just the ERC and no TAC.
If CASA permit it then you should take it. This includes the RDS, AIC, CAAPs, compass, ruler and yes ERCs.
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Easy way to find the table of cruising levels (RVSM) as well as looking at an Air Law scenario in a practical sense.
BTW for flight planning, although the problem is supposedly fixed as CASA exams are supposed to give you the distance from an aerodrome to a point shown on the ERC there was a time (and there may still be a time in the future) when you couldn't measure the actual distance between cities covered by a VTC without the VTC using just an ERC. Ttry getting the YPAD-YPPF distance using just the ERC and no TAC.
If CASA permit it then you should take it. This includes the RDS, AIC, CAAPs, compass, ruler and yes ERCs.
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can anyone comment on the necessity/importance of all these charts - ERC,PCA,TAC - for the ATPL airlaw exam?
to bring all of them in seems a bit excessive to me!
to bring all of them in seems a bit excessive to me!
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Slightly off topic, but I recently sat the CPL AIR LAW and found that I used NONE of the permitted charts or maps. I was quite disappointed as I'd gone out of my way to purchase the Hobart VTC and TAC, which I'll never use in operations before they expire.
All the same, an extra $20-40 spent to ensure you're fully kitted out to pass the exam is a small insurance. Imagine having to fork out another $200 odd for the entire exam again if you failed because of this.
All the same, an extra $20-40 spent to ensure you're fully kitted out to pass the exam is a small insurance. Imagine having to fork out another $200 odd for the entire exam again if you failed because of this.
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I borrowed a friends' Jepps for the exam. I didn't use it though I never sat an exam without ALL the allowable material.
Although I did have to remove the AIP bit because I was using AIP's proper and had it tagged all the way around (ahh, the joy).
Although I did have to remove the AIP bit because I was using AIP's proper and had it tagged all the way around (ahh, the joy).
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The reason you need a Hobart VTC is there is the occassional question that pops up regarding the purple shaded area which is found on that chart.
It means there is less than 500' terrain clearance if you are at the cta lower limit. If you don't have the chart and you havn't come across this before you will regret not having all the charts required for the exam.
I assume there are plenty of other little questions that pop up like this, and if you don't have the charts the exam will be alot harder. My advise is the charts are listed as required for a reason, you may not need them but equally you may it just depends what questions pop out of the system on the day, for god sake take all the charts with you.
It means there is less than 500' terrain clearance if you are at the cta lower limit. If you don't have the chart and you havn't come across this before you will regret not having all the charts required for the exam.
I assume there are plenty of other little questions that pop up like this, and if you don't have the charts the exam will be alot harder. My advise is the charts are listed as required for a reason, you may not need them but equally you may it just depends what questions pop out of the system on the day, for god sake take all the charts with you.
I remember getting the Hobart questions on my CPL Airlaw exam.
ATPL airlaw was all about flight and duty, minimum experience requirements for RPT and recency, minimum equipment FDRs and CVRs. Never needed to consult an ERC or TAC.
Fortunately with Jepps you have all the charts you need. Tagging them was a pain considering everything was referenced for the airservice documents in the system I purchased from AFT.
Make sure your remove the tags ASAP else they will tear the pages of the Jepps when you try to remove them. (actually sucked in, you can't tag anymore hahaha) I'm slowly getting rid of mine each fortnightly amendment. Still a few in there though!
ATPL airlaw was all about flight and duty, minimum experience requirements for RPT and recency, minimum equipment FDRs and CVRs. Never needed to consult an ERC or TAC.
Fortunately with Jepps you have all the charts you need. Tagging them was a pain considering everything was referenced for the airservice documents in the system I purchased from AFT.
Make sure your remove the tags ASAP else they will tear the pages of the Jepps when you try to remove them. (actually sucked in, you can't tag anymore hahaha) I'm slowly getting rid of mine each fortnightly amendment. Still a few in there though!
