Conversion of CASA CPL ME-CIR to FAA CPL ME-CIR
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Conversion of CASA CPL ME-CIR to FAA CPL ME-CIR ? Help pls
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Anyone has any idea how to go about converting 1500hrs CASA CPL ME-CIR to FAA CPL ME-CIR?
-1500 hrs of which 1256.4 hrs as a 1st officer in Learjet35 and Learjet 45
- 100 PIC hrs
Plus some questions here , hope some kind souls can answer !
Q1) Any chance of direct conversion without going thru much hassle and pain ?
2) Is it true that FAA will downgrade your licence to PPL even if you're holding CASA CPL ?
Tks guys!
Anyone has any idea how to go about converting 1500hrs CASA CPL ME-CIR to FAA CPL ME-CIR?
-1500 hrs of which 1256.4 hrs as a 1st officer in Learjet35 and Learjet 45
- 100 PIC hrs
Plus some questions here , hope some kind souls can answer !
Q1) Any chance of direct conversion without going thru much hassle and pain ?
2) Is it true that FAA will downgrade your licence to PPL even if you're holding CASA CPL ?
Tks guys!
Last edited by Frenique; 23rd Apr 2010 at 04:49.
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Get a validation of your CASA this validation will give you a FAA PPL if you want it seeing as you are doing the CPL no point really .
FSA clearance
Write the FAA theory 2x 1 CPL and 1 IR
Book 2 check rides pay money and done
FSA clearance
Write the FAA theory 2x 1 CPL and 1 IR
Book 2 check rides pay money and done
If you can manage to meet the experience requirements for the FAA ATP you'll save yourself a bit of mucking around. The FAA CPL flight test ('checkride' in USA-speak) involves manoeuvers that aren't done for Oz licences eg turns around a point, chandelles, figure eights around ground points etc.
You would have to do two exams & two flight tests to get CPL & CIR equivalent privileges in a multi *or* a single. Then another checkride to add the remaining single or multi, respectively ie iwhich ever class you didn't get tested in initially. It doesn't matter which sequence you do the single or multi CPL checkrides, but make sure you do the IR in a multi so that you have IR privileges for both singles & multis. Obviously the multi-IR checkride must be done after the multi-CPL checkride.
If you meet the ATP requirements you will need to do only a single exam & single flight test to get ATP privileges (which includes CPL & IR privileges) in a single or a multi. Add a second ATP flight test to add multi or single privlieges, respectively, similarly to the CPL. Unlike the CPL or PPL, the FAA ATP has integral IR privileges. The flight test is pretty much an IR flight test with slightly tighter tolerances eg 1/4 scale deflection for LOC & GS.
You could do the CPL ATPL checkrides in an amphibian. That would give you both land & sea privileges at that licence level and for that class (single or multi) after a single test, instead of doing one test for land aircraft and a separate test for sea for the class.
Because you hold an ICAO professional licence you don't need to do any minimum flight training before the CPL or ATP checkride, nor do you need to get an FAA PPL issued on the back of your Oz licence to practice first. Find an examiner (FAA or FAA approved examiner) and do the test. Examiner is free if done with the FAA. Either way I'd *strongly* recommend you fly with an instructor first. The US rules & ways of doing things can be rather different to Oz!
No matter what licence(s) you do, you'll have to jump through the TSA insecurity crap first.
You would have to do two exams & two flight tests to get CPL & CIR equivalent privileges in a multi *or* a single. Then another checkride to add the remaining single or multi, respectively ie iwhich ever class you didn't get tested in initially. It doesn't matter which sequence you do the single or multi CPL checkrides, but make sure you do the IR in a multi so that you have IR privileges for both singles & multis. Obviously the multi-IR checkride must be done after the multi-CPL checkride.
If you meet the ATP requirements you will need to do only a single exam & single flight test to get ATP privileges (which includes CPL & IR privileges) in a single or a multi. Add a second ATP flight test to add multi or single privlieges, respectively, similarly to the CPL. Unlike the CPL or PPL, the FAA ATP has integral IR privileges. The flight test is pretty much an IR flight test with slightly tighter tolerances eg 1/4 scale deflection for LOC & GS.
You could do the CPL ATPL checkrides in an amphibian. That would give you both land & sea privileges at that licence level and for that class (single or multi) after a single test, instead of doing one test for land aircraft and a separate test for sea for the class.
Because you hold an ICAO professional licence you don't need to do any minimum flight training before the CPL or ATP checkride, nor do you need to get an FAA PPL issued on the back of your Oz licence to practice first. Find an examiner (FAA or FAA approved examiner) and do the test. Examiner is free if done with the FAA. Either way I'd *strongly* recommend you fly with an instructor first. The US rules & ways of doing things can be rather different to Oz!
No matter what licence(s) you do, you'll have to jump through the TSA insecurity crap first.
Last edited by Tinstaafl; 27th Apr 2010 at 01:44.
I did it a few years back. I validated my CPL and MECIR at the local FSDO which allowed me to fly anything on my CASA CPL licence in the US. I then sat the IF initial written exam (was originally told to sit the foreign conversion but FAA was not sure so ended up sitting both) and did a IR check ride in a 172. Very easy - they let you use anything the plane has such as moving map Garmins. I then did the CPL written. Then a CPL check ride in a C310 which included an IR "add on". To fly commercially in the US you have to do a CPL check ride. This was the most cost effective way but I do not have a FAA CPL single engine. The "add on" portion of the check ride for the multi IR was 1 single engine ILS approach. Overall, very easy.
Hope that helps.
Hope that helps.
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I did the FAA ATP conversion last month.
As advised from the above posts, the easiest way is for you to convert from OZ ATPL to FAA PPL based on your Australian licence. It's the highest licence the FAA will issue. FAA validation took a week to process. It took me one day to study the ATP written and passed >90%. Once you have the ATP written, organise a checkride SEL or MEL through the local flying school or Type Rating with a FAR Part 142 training school.
Good luck!
As advised from the above posts, the easiest way is for you to convert from OZ ATPL to FAA PPL based on your Australian licence. It's the highest licence the FAA will issue. FAA validation took a week to process. It took me one day to study the ATP written and passed >90%. Once you have the ATP written, organise a checkride SEL or MEL through the local flying school or Type Rating with a FAR Part 142 training school.
Good luck!
Stevieboy, I think you have a typo. You mean convert from Oz ATPL to FAA *ATPL* don't you? And not FAA PPL as you wrote?
If you did mean PPL there's no need to get the FAA PPL. Go straight to the ATP flight test and be done with it. Also any ICAO CPL allows you to do the FAA ATP flight test and not only ICAO ATPLs.
Something I should have mentioned: Get the Practical Test Standard for the ATP before you start. The PTS lists everything that you have to do on the flight test as well as 'may do' stuff.
For the theory Gleim, ASA & Jeppesen each publish a quite useable textsto prepare for the computer based multi-choice exam. They each have slight differences in how they do things but I liked the variety as a way to emphasise the information. You don't need long to study the stuff. A few days to a week, at most, if you get stuck in. I used Gleim & ASA and studied on a flight to the UK, a few nights in the UK, the subsequent flight to the US and then a day or two in the US.
If you did mean PPL there's no need to get the FAA PPL. Go straight to the ATP flight test and be done with it. Also any ICAO CPL allows you to do the FAA ATP flight test and not only ICAO ATPLs.
Something I should have mentioned: Get the Practical Test Standard for the ATP before you start. The PTS lists everything that you have to do on the flight test as well as 'may do' stuff.
For the theory Gleim, ASA & Jeppesen each publish a quite useable textsto prepare for the computer based multi-choice exam. They each have slight differences in how they do things but I liked the variety as a way to emphasise the information. You don't need long to study the stuff. A few days to a week, at most, if you get stuck in. I used Gleim & ASA and studied on a flight to the UK, a few nights in the UK, the subsequent flight to the US and then a day or two in the US.
