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Old 2nd Apr 2010, 11:32
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What do you need to fly in Indonesia, Timor, Png

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Just wondering what you need( min requirement) to fly aircraft under 5700kg. Is CPL and MECIR. What local requirements are there. Thanks
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Indonesia
.:: Directorate General Of Civil Aviation ::.

Timor
http://www.timor-leste.gov.tl/CAA/index.html


PNG
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AvGas??
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A sense of adventure
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What do you need to fly in Indonesia, Timor, Png
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AvGas??
Close Teepee, but first you need.........AN AIRCRAFT!

The sense of adventure also helps!
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Of the three email addresses supplied above, one is the director, one is the financial controller and one is an airworthiness inspector. I doubt you would get a reply from any of them.
Try [email protected]. they will probably help you with the knowledge you seek.
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Tinpis was referring to the fact that avgas is near unobtainable at a lot of Ports north of Aus.
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Thanks Guys will check it out!!
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Yes, last I heard, Avgas was not available (at any price) in East Timor. Avtur only.

I believe MAF now have an aircraft there, but must ship in their own drum stock.
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A cast iron stomach and some steel balls won't go astray...
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So there must be an untapped market for Avtur or Diesel burning PAC 750, Airvan, C206, Islander, Nomad again at the lighter end of the transport networks in those places ! Even Premium motor spirit, if allowed, as an alternative is out, - as it is not distributed on a large scale either.
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Frigatebird, people are still waiting for a diesel burning six-cylinder to come on the market. I reckon the days of profitable running of aircraft in that category (particularly Islander/C206) is slowly coming to a close though. The cost of re-engine mods and running/maintenance cost of keeping those machines in the air vs income that they can generate is getting very marginal in those places. Already PNG operators are moving more to turbine machines, better performance, better load carrying capability, better profit margins, newer machines.
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Yes CN, the world has moved on since the 70's and 80's, and a good thing too, - and we all change and adapt. Prefer the larger ones too, - but there will always be a need at the lower end, - just that it will be ignored in future. Small turbine helicopters still get used for when they are all that is needed for the requirement..
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A new flying school in Indonesia are using C172 with Lycomings that have STCs to run on Mogas, due to the Avgas problem is this part of the world.

As for what's required to work in Indonesia, you must be sponsored by a company who then submits their Foreign Man Power Utilization Plan (known as RPTKA) to the Ministry of Manpower to show why they need to employ foreigners. Approval is usually granted if there is no-one in Indonesia who can perform the role that the company is trying to fill. This usually limits the type of jobs available to those in a training capacity with the aim to benefit the local workforce in the future. The sponsoring company also has to pay a Special Skills Development Fund (DPKK) to the Ministry of Manpower which is USD $100 a month, or $1200 a year and only after this fee is paid will you get your approval. This fee is used to help develop the skills of local workers so that in future, the country will be able to be self-sufficient with their own local workforce.

Once the RPTKA has been approved, the company then applies for Work Recommendation Application to the Ministry of Manpower (known as the TA-01). Once this is approved, you will then get your VITAS which is the visa that will allow you to enter the country. Once you're in the country, you then have the a week to convert the VITAS to the KITAS which is your work permit.

This is just the paper work required to get you in to Indonesia and working legally. You then have to deal with the DGCA for license conversion separately which is a different kettle of ikan altogether.

Rumour has it that there is a company in Indonesia who doesn't bother with all this for whatever reason.Those without a valid work permit can of course be deported out of the country.
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