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Now that everybody's vented, my point is this;
People will whinge and moan about things they don't like or are jealous of. There's no doubt that aircraft are less noisy than some of the cars, trucks or motorcycles that will be driven in the streets, but don't attract attention because aircraft are perceived as being some kind of rich boy's toy.
We all know that the reality is quite different, but there is no doubt that this is an argument where facts are not going to win.
What this mindset requires is a reach for the high ground, so get yourself out there and promote the positives of your airfield. If you don't, the whingers will make enough noise to convince your local politicians (including councils) that YOU, the aviator, are no more than a pain in the butt that can be squeezed out of existence.
Don't think it can happen? If you think it won't happen to you anywhere, get out now and leave the fight to those who are interested.
People will whinge and moan about things they don't like or are jealous of. There's no doubt that aircraft are less noisy than some of the cars, trucks or motorcycles that will be driven in the streets, but don't attract attention because aircraft are perceived as being some kind of rich boy's toy.
We all know that the reality is quite different, but there is no doubt that this is an argument where facts are not going to win.
What this mindset requires is a reach for the high ground, so get yourself out there and promote the positives of your airfield. If you don't, the whingers will make enough noise to convince your local politicians (including councils) that YOU, the aviator, are no more than a pain in the butt that can be squeezed out of existence.
Don't think it can happen? If you think it won't happen to you anywhere, get out now and leave the fight to those who are interested.
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so get yourself out there and promote the positives of your airfield
Well said. The people who complain about noise are often ignorant of the issue at hand (ie. believing cowboy pilots are being hot headed daredevils) but they make a lot of political noise. The local councillors want to be re-elected, and they need votes to do that. So if people make a big deal about it, someone is going to jump on the noise band wagon to ensure their political future.
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From my limited experience local councils are often run and in the pocket of property developers. Long term goals are forgotten when the cash register is ringing. If an airport closes that's more room to build rubbish identical houses on!
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The problem is not just developers after coin, housing is a real and significant issue. One which pilot's cannot ignore as less houses equals skyrocketing prices for us as well.
The key is for people to accept that their house is cheaper because it's next to an airport, hence the reason they could probably afford it.
Of course they have invested interest in that airport closing as it would increase the value of their property. That's why active community involvement by airport users is required, try and make having an airport close by a plus, not a minus.
The key is for people to accept that their house is cheaper because it's next to an airport, hence the reason they could probably afford it.
Of course they have invested interest in that airport closing as it would increase the value of their property. That's why active community involvement by airport users is required, try and make having an airport close by a plus, not a minus.
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Scene, military ab initio jet training base. Orders go up on board that all instructors and students are to work Saturday as if it was a normal week day. Unheard of was weekend work, and more puzzling that the only flying permitted would be circuits. Boss had become aware that a land auction for housing slap bang up against the base was to be held.
What was the outcome of that, Brian?
Also, quite a few years ago someone built a house right under the downwind leg of the main runway at an airfield on which a major Gliding Club operated with two Pawnees as tugs.
One fine day the Club Office Manager recieves an irate call from the house owner complaining about the tugs. Said Office Manager (Female and not a Pilot) replied simply,
''Well why did you build a house right next to an operational airfield?''
All she heard was stunned silence, so she hung up without any further conversation.
Nothing was ever heard again.
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Legend has it that a former OC of RAAF Amberley dealt with noise complaints by inviting complainers into his office and politely asking them to point out their houses on a aerial photo of the base.
Only one person ever managed to do so (an old timer who the OC managed to get onside in other ways) because the photo was taken in the 1930's.
The tactic was apparently very effective.
Only one person ever managed to do so (an old timer who the OC managed to get onside in other ways) because the photo was taken in the 1930's.
The tactic was apparently very effective.
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Good to see some balance in the press.
Plane silly to buy under Camden Airport flight path - Local News - News - General - Camden Advertiser
Plane silly to buy under Camden Airport flight path - Local News - News - General - Camden Advertiser
Scene, military ab initio jet training base. Orders go up on board that all instructors and students are to work Saturday as if it was a normal week day. Unheard of was weekend work, and more puzzling that the only flying permitted would be circuits. Boss had become aware that a land auction for housing slap bang up against the base was to be held.
Sitting in the crew room at 1FTS, on one of the very few nights when we flew. Someone complaining about the noise we were making at Laverton (we used both fields). CO took the phone and asked if the airfield had been there when they bought their house. Response was yes. To which the CO responded, 'well you can go and get f*&^(d then can't you'. It probably wouldn't happen now, but it's what we all think.
