Northern Territory Aeromed Contract
1) G'day Aussie O2
- were they "Ambos", or regular King Air airframes?
2) And no announcement yet from NT Government - surprise surprise!! (Unless I missed it)
3) Reportedly Careflight are willing to pay their fixed wing drivers "the same" as what existing Pearl aeromed contract drivers are being paid. Anyone who thinks that sounds good, beware: how many more hours per month will be involved I wonder... Apples with apples, people.
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Four B200 ambos from Norway just ferried in to Essendon
2) And no announcement yet from NT Government - surprise surprise!! (Unless I missed it)
3) Reportedly Careflight are willing to pay their fixed wing drivers "the same" as what existing Pearl aeromed contract drivers are being paid. Anyone who thinks that sounds good, beware: how many more hours per month will be involved I wonder... Apples with apples, people.
CR.
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All four are white with red stripes, LifePort EMS configured, 1993 models , each with approx 14,000 hours TTAF. Fitted with, Ram Air Recovery System, Short Field Enhancement, Dual Aft Body Strakes, Hartzell/Raisbeck Quiet Turbofan Propellor Kit with Auto Feather, Brake de-Ice System, Freon Air Conditioning, High Floatation landing gear...all as per their For Sale sheet on the net. Previously operated as Air Ambulances in Norway. Arrived Monday night into ESS.
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Fitted with, Ram Air Recovery System, Short Field Enhancement, Dual Aft Body Strakes, Hartzell/Raisbeck Quiet Turbofan Propellor Kit with Auto Feather, Brake de-Ice System, Freon Air Conditioning, High Floatation landing gear
Seems like a hell of a lot of time, money & effort for a six month contract.
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betaman,
I think the de-icing will be used.
Your comment about the huge effort for a six month period is interesting. But we are not supposed to notice things like that.
I remember something like this happening with the coastwatch contract a long time ago.
I think the de-icing will be used.
Your comment about the huge effort for a six month period is interesting. But we are not supposed to notice things like that.
I remember something like this happening with the coastwatch contract a long time ago.
All good until Australasian Jet parks them up in Darwin and tries to get fuel.........sorry sir your MED1 can't proceed because the aircraft is inpounded at Darwin due to unpaid fuel and airport fees 
They are also operating out of the cursed hangar they went broke in last time.
Pearl will get the contract with their bid for new Kingairs, being a locally owned company and the experience to back it up.
Clyde Fenton would roll in his grave if he could see what mess this whole affair has become.
They are also operating out of the cursed hangar they went broke in last time.
Pearl will get the contract with their bid for new Kingairs, being a locally owned company and the experience to back it up.
Clyde Fenton would roll in his grave if he could see what mess this whole affair has become.
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Hi Bushy
The brake de-ice is a fairly complex & heavy option for the King Air which if it had to be used in the Top End then there would have to be some serious changes in the weather (read second ice age or something similar) great for Norway though.
I remember it too, I guess time will tell.
Well ummm no actually.
betaman,
I think the de-icing will be used.
I think the de-icing will be used.
Your comment about the huge effort for a six month period is interesting. But we are not supposed to notice things like that.
I remember something like this happening with the coastwatch contract a long time ago
I remember something like this happening with the coastwatch contract a long time ago
We are talking about the NT Government here - do you really think it will only be a 6 month interim contract?
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I heard that CareFlight was experiencing some difficulty in obtaining a hangar or even space in a hangar for the ops. Let alone the raft of other drama's they're facing.
As for the tender - when's parliament sitting again?
As for the tender - when's parliament sitting again?
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Time will tell.
All this is very interesting, however the reality is this supposed company with no money has just purchased 4 late model Kingairs from the largest Aeromed operator in Europe that are 20 years newer than the existing service. Not bad from a company with no money???? Didn't these guys have 727's and 2 DC9's ?????
The facts are just about to become an awakening for all the knockers of Careflight and AusJet.
I watched a lot of ramble in this thread, pc12 vs Kingair, pearl and going to continue, Care flight will never get up and running etc etc etc etc.
People the facts are this:
Careflight are coming
4 late model aeromed king airs are coming
Careflight helicopters are already there
Whatever happens next, you work it out..............
The facts are just about to become an awakening for all the knockers of Careflight and AusJet.
I watched a lot of ramble in this thread, pc12 vs Kingair, pearl and going to continue, Care flight will never get up and running etc etc etc etc.
People the facts are this:
Careflight are coming
4 late model aeromed king airs are coming
Careflight helicopters are already there
Whatever happens next, you work it out..............
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Reality check
Few drivers
few medical staff
little to no idea of operations in NT
Little to no local knowledge
little to no infrastructure.
Thank you
have an idea how this will go.
ADD NT Govt
All bets off!
install dumb ass decisions and scapegoat, fear mungering(sic) and total lack of leadership.
Few drivers
few medical staff
little to no idea of operations in NT
Little to no local knowledge
little to no infrastructure.
Thank you
have an idea how this will go.
ADD NT Govt
All bets off!
install dumb ass decisions and scapegoat, fear mungering(sic) and total lack of leadership.
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Nice looking photos of the new aircraft - but come on - stop calling a 1993 model a late model kingair - if that build date is correct, then these planes are still pretty old. Would you call your 1993 car near new too???
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Nice
Current service are mid 70's machines and mostly currently unservicable.
This is an interim contract only as current operator had contract cancelled due non performance to the good NT people. Long Term is anyone's guess.
Did any of you spend $8 odd million to support the NT aeromed service in the interim?? I didn't think so...............
Are people going to still be employed, yes.
Is the service still going to be run by a provider with a solid 25 year history of the same? Yes
Have any of you owned a GA operation or run a vital health service?? Didn't think so............
Are any of you brave enough to use your real names here?? Didn't think so..........
Hero's are in the grandstand people, grow some balls.
Good luck Careflight, well done for stepping up where no one else will.
This is an interim contract only as current operator had contract cancelled due non performance to the good NT people. Long Term is anyone's guess.
Did any of you spend $8 odd million to support the NT aeromed service in the interim?? I didn't think so...............
Are people going to still be employed, yes.
Is the service still going to be run by a provider with a solid 25 year history of the same? Yes
Have any of you owned a GA operation or run a vital health service?? Didn't think so............
Are any of you brave enough to use your real names here?? Didn't think so..........
Hero's are in the grandstand people, grow some balls.
Good luck Careflight, well done for stepping up where no one else will.
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point in case
I guess the current helicopter contractor picked up the pieces from the failed pearl operation (this is not a reflection on the pearl staff just to clarify).
Interesting to note that the RFDS had 4 WA Surplus King Airs sitting on the ground and would not offer them to NT to assist. Again closed shop for the interim, no. Just no one else stood up. facts people please...............
Hilarious for the patients..............maybe for you, but no. Again thankfully the good people of the NT will have a service provider that actually does care about the patient, not political games by operators.
Interesting to note that the RFDS had 4 WA Surplus King Airs sitting on the ground and would not offer them to NT to assist. Again closed shop for the interim, no. Just no one else stood up. facts people please...............
Hilarious for the patients..............maybe for you, but no. Again thankfully the good people of the NT will have a service provider that actually does care about the patient, not political games by operators.
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Natbanger,
NTAMS run via NT Health refused to upgrade aircraft at the current operators request, preferring to re tender.
General public have seriously no idea, fact is NT health have allowed service to diminish even though contractor, and all staff have jumped up and down for years to make the needed changes.
No Drs in Katherine or Gove, NT health
There used to be a roo problem, things have changed.
NT govt is using the current contractor as a scape goat and public just go along for the ride.
At the end of all this you will get a better service as the Govt will use it as a political win. Years down the track they will F*@$ it up by bad decisions and middle management ladder climbing.
The media love to be able to attack an entity, in this case it is the current operator,(though certainly not blameless).
You make your choice on what to believe.
NTAMS run via NT Health refused to upgrade aircraft at the current operators request, preferring to re tender.
General public have seriously no idea, fact is NT health have allowed service to diminish even though contractor, and all staff have jumped up and down for years to make the needed changes.
No Drs in Katherine or Gove, NT health
There used to be a roo problem, things have changed.
NT govt is using the current contractor as a scape goat and public just go along for the ride.
At the end of all this you will get a better service as the Govt will use it as a political win. Years down the track they will F*@$ it up by bad decisions and middle management ladder climbing.
The media love to be able to attack an entity, in this case it is the current operator,(though certainly not blameless).
You make your choice on what to believe.