ALAEA Elections June 2010
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ALAEA Elections June 2010
I'm looking to put name up for a QF councillor position on the Federal Executive at the next coming elections. Given the track record of the present executive I'm hoping someone could me some advice in regard to obtaining that. 
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Where do you work and who is the current councillor? Maybe he's had enough and wants to step down. You could ask him, or failing that run against him. IMO I think this exec will all get re-elected should they run for office this election.
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Where do you work and who is the current councillor?
My name is (Ian Oldmeadow. Sue Bussell, John Farrow, Doug Mills etc. etc.) (you fill in the loser's name).
The current councillor is a nameless **** because he causes me trouble by sticking up for his members.
Bastard!!!!!!!
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I work in Syd, I don't think any of the guys there are thinking of standing down, I'm just wondering whether I should approach the current group to see if there's a vacancy or just run. I agree it's a hard ask but I want to be apart of it I need a new goal.
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Nice reply What The, but it's cost you a new keyboard!
OMOM, I can only reiterate what I already said, and if no one wants to stand down then after the Exec's performance/leadership during the EBA negs and subsequent PIA, I think it may a tough election campaign for you.
OMOM, I can only reiterate what I already said, and if no one wants to stand down then after the Exec's performance/leadership during the EBA negs and subsequent PIA, I think it may a tough election campaign for you.
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$20 says that What The is either Purvinas or one of his bum-chums - making out that anyone who opposes him is Management - hardly union democracy.
With my access "behind the scenes" and access to post IP addresses, my $20 says it is a larrikin with a warped sense of humour.
Would you care to send me your $20?
Tail Wheel
With my access "behind the scenes" and access to post IP addresses, my $20 says it is a larrikin with a warped sense of humour.
Would you care to send me your $20?
Tail Wheel
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$20 says that What The is either Purvinas or one of his bum-chums - making out that anyone who opposes him is Management - hardly union democracy.
It's fair to say, that this current Association leadership has done more for its members than its predecessors. Hence the previous lot being unanimously ejected from office for being company "YES" men and looking after their own interests before that of the members. That's why the previous Fed Sec is now an acting manager at QF.
The level support for the current Association comittee by its members is higher than it has been for many years. Why? The fed sec and president are not employed by the airlines.
Maybe LAME's1st, you are a member of management, and it's you and your bum chums opposing the Association and its members.
$20 says I'm right!!!
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OMOM,
Should have gone in it for the big one mate.
Too late now. Barriers drawn and the field is set. Wait! Wait! Wait! Late news just in... the favourite has been scratched at the gate. Self inflicted injury he's been carrying around for some time it seems.
Word round the course and in the betting ring now is there is now only one left in the field and it will not even go to the track. Winner to be declared at the starting gate.
SP bookies are kicking themselves as they had him down as the favourite in a two horse race. Unbackable odds it seems. Laid off a motza with the other bookies. Sack the strapper, the trainer AND the jockey I say...
Could still go to the stewarts, but I doubt it.
Will win next time if true to form?
P2G
Should have gone in it for the big one mate.
Too late now. Barriers drawn and the field is set. Wait! Wait! Wait! Late news just in... the favourite has been scratched at the gate. Self inflicted injury he's been carrying around for some time it seems.
Word round the course and in the betting ring now is there is now only one left in the field and it will not even go to the track. Winner to be declared at the starting gate.
SP bookies are kicking themselves as they had him down as the favourite in a two horse race. Unbackable odds it seems. Laid off a motza with the other bookies. Sack the strapper, the trainer AND the jockey I say...
Could still go to the stewarts, but I doubt it.
Will win next time if true to form?P2G
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Well P2G it may just be that I am shopping around for a better bookie to lay my bet. Would you care to give me some odds on me being Federal Secretary after this election now that you think I am out of the race?
Maybe we should just have a look how accurate you were in 2007 before the ALAEA became the first union to break Qantas's 3% wage cap in 15 years -
Maybe we should just have a look how accurate you were in 2007 before the ALAEA became the first union to break Qantas's 3% wage cap in 15 years -
To ALAEA Fed Sec
Seeing as you like to conduct business in such a public forum here’s some impartial feedback for those you represent, if not for you, from someone that gives a s#!t about all the good things done, and continue to be done, to raise the professional standing of the LAME in this industry of ours over the years.
Sadly, until there is a separation between the industrial muscle-up and the professional advocacy no one inside is going to take you seriously SP.
The two approaches are like oil and water. Until you understand the damage you continue to do long term to the overall industry and to the long term interests of those you represent, with blind destructive aggression and erroneous propaganda, you will continue to tear down the house.
Some of your rants to the media are indicative of either a poor knowledge of the actual subject matter or a wilful disregard for some of the basic tenets we all live by, and the association stands for, i.e. wait for the facts before shooting your mouth off.
Hope PS can rein you in a bit and bring some sanity (and respect) back to the association.
You are, rather sadly, seen by many of your 'peers' as the Norm Gallagher of the aviation industry.
A bit like a train crash about to happen really in that everyone knows what is coming but no one can look away.
P2G
Seeing as you like to conduct business in such a public forum here’s some impartial feedback for those you represent, if not for you, from someone that gives a s#!t about all the good things done, and continue to be done, to raise the professional standing of the LAME in this industry of ours over the years.
Sadly, until there is a separation between the industrial muscle-up and the professional advocacy no one inside is going to take you seriously SP.
The two approaches are like oil and water. Until you understand the damage you continue to do long term to the overall industry and to the long term interests of those you represent, with blind destructive aggression and erroneous propaganda, you will continue to tear down the house.
Some of your rants to the media are indicative of either a poor knowledge of the actual subject matter or a wilful disregard for some of the basic tenets we all live by, and the association stands for, i.e. wait for the facts before shooting your mouth off.
Hope PS can rein you in a bit and bring some sanity (and respect) back to the association.
You are, rather sadly, seen by many of your 'peers' as the Norm Gallagher of the aviation industry.
A bit like a train crash about to happen really in that everyone knows what is coming but no one can look away.
P2G
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Sorry to hear about the election you are a good bloke SP, 
but not sorry about SR as I find it hard for a trustee to be able to also get paid for working full time.
SR should not have put his name down for the election and position of Trustee.
but not sorry about SR as I find it hard for a trustee to be able to also get paid for working full time.SR should not have put his name down for the election and position of Trustee.
I would not try and justify a persons renumeration against their position title in this situation. I would ask myself, are the members receiving value fo their money and I would look at what benefits the incumbent is bringing to the members.
If the incumbent was placed in your desired scenario, would the members be recieving the same value for money and benefits?
The answer is very subjective.
Hard for us outsiders to see the bigger picture at times, but there again, this is a rumor network.
If the incumbent was placed in your desired scenario, would the members be recieving the same value for money and benefits?
The answer is very subjective.
Hard for us outsiders to see the bigger picture at times, but there again, this is a rumor network.
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The fed sec and president are not employed by the airlines.
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OMOM,
Should have gone in it for the big one mate.
Too late now. Barriers drawn and the field is set. Wait! Wait! Wait! Late news just in... the favourite has been scratched at the gate. Self inflicted injury he's been carrying around for some time it seems.
Word round the course and in the betting ring now is there is now only one left in the field and it will not even go to the track. Winner to be declared at the starting gate.
SP bookies are kicking themselves as they had him down as the favourite in a two horse race. Unbackable odds it seems. Laid off a motza with the other bookies. Sack the strapper, the trainer AND the jockey I say...
Could still go to the stewarts, but I doubt it. Will win next time if true to form?
P2G
Should have gone in it for the big one mate.
Too late now. Barriers drawn and the field is set. Wait! Wait! Wait! Late news just in... the favourite has been scratched at the gate. Self inflicted injury he's been carrying around for some time it seems.
Word round the course and in the betting ring now is there is now only one left in the field and it will not even go to the track. Winner to be declared at the starting gate.
SP bookies are kicking themselves as they had him down as the favourite in a two horse race. Unbackable odds it seems. Laid off a motza with the other bookies. Sack the strapper, the trainer AND the jockey I say...
Could still go to the stewarts, but I doubt it. Will win next time if true to form?
P2G
Looks like this PPRuNe rumour had some substance.
See here for an article in today's papers: Union leader takes on electoral commission over ban | The Australian
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SP has made large gains for the rights of both his membership and unionism in general as well as trying to maintain the safe reputation of australian aviation.The ACTU needs to assist and ensure justice prevails in this case,I can't see much help coming from the airlines.To the challenger,don't expect too much support after these shenanigans,"karma" is a bitch.
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I understand how you may feel in regards to this problem, but I have heard - rumour that is - The ALAEA is funding you legal fees, is this correct. If this is correct is it not against the ALAEA rules to actually back a particular person/s for election. I understood the ALAEA to be neutral on election matters. 
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rumour that is - The ALAEA is funding you legal fees, is this correct.
The ALAEA will choose to do what they will with the case. Both Re and I have stood aside from any decision related to the election. The case is between us and the AEC. Interested parties can also supply a submission and I assume there will be two other parties.
1. The ALAEA who if the decision remains may be adversly effected because no LAME could ever hold the senior position in the union and also "manage the office and employees" as the rules say they should.
2. The bloke who is running against me who wants a free ride into the position without the support of the members.
Happy to answer any further questions.
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Thnx OS,
The EBA you refer to I assume was the Qf one which was a real team effort. I actually wasn't even on our EBA committee so most the credit goes to the guys that were. I did take charge of a lot of comms though.
I think our membership is strong in many other areas also notably due to lesser profile battles we have won at Skywest, Eastern, Helicopters NZ and Virgin.
cheers
Steve
The EBA you refer to I assume was the Qf one which was a real team effort. I actually wasn't even on our EBA committee so most the credit goes to the guys that were. I did take charge of a lot of comms though.
I think our membership is strong in many other areas also notably due to lesser profile battles we have won at Skywest, Eastern, Helicopters NZ and Virgin.
cheers
Steve