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Old 27th Jan 2010, 01:34
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What happens when a Chief Pilot is sick

For an AOC to be valid the Chief Pilot has to be at the controls so to speak, even at a distace on holidays etc. But what happens if the CP of an organisation is suddenly made incapaciated. Sick or even ..falls off the perch.

How does a company opeate while they find a replacement.

Do ops stop immediately.
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Old 27th Jan 2010, 01:44
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If you talk to CASA they will tell you ops cease directly, in this case CASA are often very helpfull in speeding up the process of testing and approving a new CP ( they understand the implications of no income ).

That is why it is a very very good idea to have an approved DCP, approved to fill the position of the CP.
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The end is nigh, the sky is falling in, we're going broke, who can fill the boots quickly, etc etc

Most would be honest, some wouldn't

If the CP breaks his leg or something I'm sure it won't get back to CASA. If the CP looses his medical it could be a disaster.

If it is a CAR217 operation the CP does not even need to be a Pilot

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they understand
"CASA" and "understand" in the same paragraph

Surely you jest..
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According to the blurb on the CP application form, CASA encourage organisations to a have a second person pre-approved in order to safeguard this situation and to deputize during temporary CP absences like leave etc.
But because CASA charge a king's ransom for all approvals these days, most small companies just run with the one CP and hope that if he does croak, he has the decency to do so when off-duty and at a time when it won't affect the roster. Also well before he has used up his annual and sick leave entitlements and preferably the day before his instrument rating is due, not the day after they just renewed it. They always figure that they can get someone else into the job the next day.
By charging hefty fees, CASA don't do much to encourage orderly succession. And then there are some insecure CPs who don't want a potential successor because it weakens their position.

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The CASA policy manuals cover this. See section 7.11.7 on page 8 at:

http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...m/011r0711.pdf
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CASA can give flexibility to all sorts of approvals. I worked in one organisation where the CP's medical was invalid for many months - CASA simply approved him to continue as CP until the medical was restored.

Just because he couldn't be PIC, it didn't stop him doing plenty of ground check & training, and backseating to monitor the training standards on flights.

Of course, popping off the twig would present a whole new set of challenges - Don't think you'd get a temp approval to continue if they had to post it to your wooden box !!
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"CASA" and "understand" in the same paragraph
Surely you jest..



Atlas, it's well known that CASA along with AsA are in it for the money and couldn't give a hoot about safety. But's possibly for another thread!
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