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Old 21st Jan 2010, 10:01
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What did National Jet use the B737QC for?
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 05:27
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didn't VH-CZS go to DJ too?
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 07:13
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Nope - Jitconnect for a while.

It's now in South Africa.
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 07:47
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fair enough!!
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Old 30th Jan 2010, 18:42
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Ah the good 'ole days where security was leaving yr push bike with the man on the gate to go wondering around the light planes, well 'twas so at EN anyway
Didn't need much of a 'by your leave' anywhere. Wandered through the gate at the old international terminal to perv on the 727 demonstrator on her world tour at Mascot in '63. No restriction walking around inside and out, unescorted, taking pics, yarning with the crew. Same with BOAC Comet, HP Herald (RR Darts). Most gates unlocked. You could walk across the tarmac to the grass near the old tower and poke around DC-3s, Hudsons , etc. parked there. Same at Fairbairn, Canberra Airport, at least on the south side. Never once saw anyone anywhere given the bum's rush.

The first tower at Mascot, incidentally, was a simple wooden affair erected in the late twenties, where Mr Burgess, the ringmaster, would superintend movements with his loud hailer and light. Around 1940 the first proper tower was built where TAA and EWA later had their terminal. That tower building still exists and if you know where to look, you can pick it out all but swallowed up in the QF domestic terminal.
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 00:13
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The 1940s tower you speak about was swamped by the development of QF's Domestic terminal over the years, but the view was never built out, unlike so many other buildings in Sydney Town! It had a perfect view of the arrivals on 16R and departures on 34L, and the occasional go around when the traffic jams occur!
Up until the end of 2008, it was being used by the QF POCOs (Port Co-Ordinators) a hardy and fantastic group of guys and girls who constanly monitor the endless disruptions to the QF domestic network and attempt to keep everyone updated on every single movement in the system!! They have since been relocated to the STOCC, a windowless central command bunker buried deep beneath the airport, where everything is monitored by CCTV .
I can't say what the old tower is being used for now, but with that spectacular outlook and a million dollar corporate fitout, it would make a great little office for a some QF executive .
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hear hear to the work and dedication of POCOs all around the country!
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Old 6th Feb 2010, 10:33
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CharlieLimaX-Ray. The National Jet Systems B737-300QC was used for both passenger and freight operations, both domestic and international. I remember seeing the aircraft in South East Asia during the mid nineties with a load of passengers who were deported from Australia. The Captain was George Marlow. For those who know Warren Seymour of National Jet fame you may be interested in knowing he has shed kgs and is now a resident in the US.

BTW. I think National Jet had a dispensation to operate the B737-300QC as a freighter with up to 12 movements per week during curfew hours at SYD.
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Old 7th Feb 2010, 05:39
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Thanks for that B772.
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Old 7th Feb 2010, 12:38
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I thought the John Flynn, ex-Elders/IXL chief pilot (on their corporate 737, before they got rid of it) was hired by National Jet to fly their 737?
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 12:21
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Correction - Puff

For the record... I believe that VH-CZQ, quickly recovered from the Ansett Administrators and leased immediately to Virgin within weeks of the fateful day, was a GE Commercial Aviation Services (GECAS) owned bird not Ansett Worldwide Aviation Services (AWAS).

Note the 'non-standard 'Ansett' white painted fueselage and Virgin tail livery in the photos.

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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 13:27
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Actually 4 737-100's.
According to The Boeing 737 technical Guide, there were 30 B737-100's built with 22 going to Lufthansa, 5 for Malaysian Airlines, and 2 for Avianca. Nothing mentioned about NAC (New Zealand) or Ansett.
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 13:57
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Ansett's first 737 was a -277, CZM delivered '81?
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 14:08
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According to The Boeing 737 technical Guide, there were 30 B737-100's built with 22 going to Lufthansa, 5 for Malaysian Airlines, and 2 for Avianca. Nothing mentioned about NAC (New Zealand) or Ansett.
That would be because they were all second hand.

3 built for Lufthansa, 1 for SQ.
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 22:30
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Originally Posted by A37575
According to The Boeing 737 technical Guide, there were 30 B737-100's built with 22 going to Lufthansa, 5 for Malaysian Airlines, and 2 for Avianca. Nothing mentioned about NAC (New Zealand) or Ansett.
It may have been the predecessor to Malaysian and Singapore Airlines that had the 737-100's, known as MSA or Malaysia Singapore Airlines. They split in 1972 to form Singapore Airlines and Malaysia Airlines.

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NAC never had 737-100's. Ansett NZ had a few when they started.
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Old 4th Apr 2010, 03:02
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3 of the Ansett NZ B737-100's were built for Lufthansa They then went to America West before ending up in NZ in approx. mid 1987 where they stayed for approx. 4 years. A further B737-100 ZK-NED City of Nelson was operated by MSA as 9M-AOV and then America West as N709AW before being put into service on 6 Aug 1987 by Ansett NZ. The a/c was withdrawn from service on 27 Jan 1990 after being replaced by a BAe146-300.
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Old 4th Apr 2010, 08:05
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Airfix have just released a 1/144th Ansett B737-200.
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Old 4th Apr 2010, 10:44
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The Mascot past

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Your post no: 46, shows some of the good old days at the airport.

Do you remember the old runway / strip, that made up the three for the complex, 16 and 34, 07 and 25 and 03 ? and not sure if the opposite 21 was in operation. The direction 03 seems to be in my mind although it could be that, plus or minus some?

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