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Being a very inexperienced FO in an airline is going to give you seniority over someone who went out in GA did the time and came in with a few thousand hours on top of you...
I understand what you're saying, that said, for many their primary objective in Aviation is quite simply to end up in an airline. Let's face it, the majority of GA consists of conditions and even 'er locations. So if getting into an airline remains your lifelong objective, why would you make yourself wait a day longer than your have too? Particularly in QF, where seniority is king.
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My experience is that those that dont do the time and learn to fly planes before they get into an airline as an FO cant think for themselves.
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My experience is that those that dont do the time and learn to fly planes before they get into an airline as an FO cant think for themselves.
Oh dear, its turned into a Willy measuring contest already.
Personally, my view on this matter, is anyone with such a myopic view as this is a big worry.
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My experience is that those that dont do the time and learn to fly planes before they get into an airline as an FO cant think for themselves.
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For starters, I love what I do and I wouldn't give it away for anything in the world. I am an airline pilot in oz with a major carrier and I am not in any way ashamed to say that it is not QF!! I MUST say this though, throughout the days I was doing the hard yards getting my commercial, doing my IREX, ATPL ect I always envied the guys who I knew where younger than me getting slots in airlines. I didn't get my CPL till I was in my mid to late 20's, I am now in my early thirties and I am now an airline jet captain with a major carrier and it's not Tiger. Having said that, now that I am in my position I no longer envy the young guys getting into airlines I feel sorry for them, especially ones who are QF cadets or SO's. If you are a person who got into flying to earn heaps of money and do very little you are in the wrong game. Although a QF A380 SO earns similar to what I do, I wouldn't change place with him or in QF's case "her" for anything in the world. I couldn't think of anything worse than sitting in the back of an A380 for 15 hours listening to some fat, full of his own importance sheltered prick telling me how QF is the best airline with the best pilots and best service in the world to know that to get anywhere in my career I would have to go to Jetstar anyway on half the pay and conditions to get a seat change. My advice to people out there is to get GA experience because lets face it you can never go back, enjoy it because believe me, when there is two of you on the flight deck generally 8/10 times you will revert to the GA stories and you'll have many a laughs with each other.
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What a strange post newjetpilot! Did you get knocked back from QF?
If you're not in their position, you're not in a position to comment on how they should feel!
What a strange post newjetpilot! Did you get knocked back from QF?
I am in my position I no longer envy the young guys getting into airlines I feel sorry for them
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Strewth. Where do I start!
I don't know of a single cadet or 'young' person in QF who has this attitude. (That we actually earn heaps of money and do very little is just an added bonus! )
Neither could I but having gone down the QF route for 15 years now I never actually experienced any of that. I suspect that most of my colleagues haven't either. Those that have understand that those crew members are the exception rather than the rule.
Still, given that you don't work for QF, I'm not sure how you can be so sure that life as a QF driver is what you portray it to be! It's been a while since I was in the back seat but I'd be surprised if many of them are particularly upset by their lot in life.
Interesting psych profile building up by looking at your posts though. Enquiring about DJ employment in 2007 (two posts) and then two posts in the last month being critical of QF. Did you get the direct entry command into DJ or have you recently checked out in command and had to let everyone know by telling us how you're a captain? Or did you miss out on DJ and get into J* instead?
If you are a person who got into flying to earn heaps of money and do very little you are in the wrong game.
I couldn't think of anything worse than sitting in the back of an A380 for 15 hours listening to some fat, full of his own importance sheltered prick telling me how QF is the best airline with the best pilots and best service in the world...
Still, given that you don't work for QF, I'm not sure how you can be so sure that life as a QF driver is what you portray it to be! It's been a while since I was in the back seat but I'd be surprised if many of them are particularly upset by their lot in life.
Interesting psych profile building up by looking at your posts though. Enquiring about DJ employment in 2007 (two posts) and then two posts in the last month being critical of QF. Did you get the direct entry command into DJ or have you recently checked out in command and had to let everyone know by telling us how you're a captain? Or did you miss out on DJ and get into J* instead?
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Mate have you had a couple and feeling a bit anti Qantas tonite.
As one of the SO's mentioned although not on the 380 I'll throw my two cents in.
Don't drink and pprune.
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Keg you articulated very well and I wholly concur skipper
Mate have you had a couple and feeling a bit anti Qantas tonite.
As one of the SO's mentioned although not on the 380 I'll throw my two cents in.
Don't drink and pprune.
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Keg you articulated very well and I wholly concur skipper
I couldn't think of anything worse than sitting in the back of an A380 for 15 hours listening to some fat, full of his own importance sheltered prick telling me how QF is the best airline
Until I get to sit next to some guy for four sectors telling me his GA war stories I'll continue to be happy going to church in London on a Sunday
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KNocked back!!!! I never applied, I'm not female, my dad isn't a qf captain and I have never crashed an aeroplane so I'm already three prerequisites behind the eight ball!!!!!!!!