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I have some Q's
1. I wonder where the Chief Pilot is coming from? In fact has he even got a Chief Pilot or know what is required in this regard?
2. I wonder where the courier work is coming from?
3. I wonder why he is advertising for people that don't have the qualifications required to do the flying?
4. I wonder why he needs a bond as high as $20,000 or a bond at all for that matter?
I have a theory on how Q2 and Q3 might be related, City Jet comes to mind.
I have theory on the $20,000 too, the "bond" is a clever way of getting the use of your money. You will get it back if it all works, BUT if not, you cannot get blood out of a stone. Refer again to City Jet.
I get the feeling that someone has a great idea but doesn't have the faintest idea on how the industry works, but they are going to show us all how it is done.
1. I wonder where the Chief Pilot is coming from? In fact has he even got a Chief Pilot or know what is required in this regard?
2. I wonder where the courier work is coming from?
3. I wonder why he is advertising for people that don't have the qualifications required to do the flying?
4. I wonder why he needs a bond as high as $20,000 or a bond at all for that matter?
I have a theory on how Q2 and Q3 might be related, City Jet comes to mind.
I have theory on the $20,000 too, the "bond" is a clever way of getting the use of your money. You will get it back if it all works, BUT if not, you cannot get blood out of a stone. Refer again to City Jet.
I get the feeling that someone has a great idea but doesn't have the faintest idea on how the industry works, but they are going to show us all how it is done.
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I've been involved in three start-ups.
My experience is:
It is never as easy as you think it will be.
It ALWAYS requires sh*tloads of money, far more than you would expect.
If you don't start off with at least double your budget in your pocket at the beginning, you are unlikely to still be trading a year later.
Regulatory authorities can be either your friend or your worst nightmare. The way the NZ CAA is carrying on at the moment, I would be extremely surprised if they were in any way co-operative with this scheme.
Innovation is fine, but taking money off pilots (well-proven to be as easy as taking candy from a baby) is a well-worn route that many have trod... see the thread on a certain Mr Butler that surfaces on PPRuNe from time to time.
New operations trade on the desperation and ambition of young pilots to get a start, especially in tough times.
Of the three that I have been involved in, none are currently flying (although one still technically exists, but without an AOC). The longest-lived one lasted around 18 months. One lasted just three months. I had to take two of them to court to get my money from them.
Do some research. There are plenty of cautionary tales on PPRuNe.
Above all, be careful and don't prove the old maxim (that a fool and his money are easily parted).
However, on the plus side...
... which is pretty much why we now have low-cost airlines. Everyone said that it wouldn't (and couldn't) work. Who runs the show now? It isn't the legacy carriers, who are scrambling to emulate the lo-cos...
Now look back and see where the major low-cost carriers came from. Not from aviation experts, that's for sure!
My experience is:
It is never as easy as you think it will be.
It ALWAYS requires sh*tloads of money, far more than you would expect.
If you don't start off with at least double your budget in your pocket at the beginning, you are unlikely to still be trading a year later.
Regulatory authorities can be either your friend or your worst nightmare. The way the NZ CAA is carrying on at the moment, I would be extremely surprised if they were in any way co-operative with this scheme.
Innovation is fine, but taking money off pilots (well-proven to be as easy as taking candy from a baby) is a well-worn route that many have trod... see the thread on a certain Mr Butler that surfaces on PPRuNe from time to time.
New operations trade on the desperation and ambition of young pilots to get a start, especially in tough times.
Of the three that I have been involved in, none are currently flying (although one still technically exists, but without an AOC). The longest-lived one lasted around 18 months. One lasted just three months. I had to take two of them to court to get my money from them.
Do some research. There are plenty of cautionary tales on PPRuNe.
Above all, be careful and don't prove the old maxim (that a fool and his money are easily parted).
However, on the plus side...
I get the feeling that someone has a great idea but doesn't have the faintest idea on how the industry works, but they are going to show us all how it is done.
Now look back and see where the major low-cost carriers came from. Not from aviation experts, that's for sure!
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... can you even log RHS in a navajo at all? What column are you hotshots planning to put it in? It ain't "dual" without an instructor and it ain't "co pilot" unless the aircraft is legally required to operate two crew, so it's got to be in the "command practice" column, and that opens up a whole new can of legally dubious worms if you're physically occupying the RHS, and especially if there's not a proper set of full IFR instrumentation on both sides of the panel which virtually no Navajos have.
I'm already having visions of one of these turkeys doing an ATPL flight test with someone like Graeme Leach in a few years, and getting half their logbook hours ripped up as illegitimate before they've even made it out of the briefing room.
Unless of course you're in the left seat, which is a whole different ball game considering the advert seems to be targeting fresh CPLs and people not even out of training yet. Now unless things have changed a lot in NZ, it used to be nigh impossible to even get your hands on a PA31 unless you had over 1000 hours TT, I vaguely remember back when I was about a 500 hour "C" cat and I rang around the whole north island trying to rent one for a private flight with a bunch of my mates down to Queenstown, nobody would even consider letting me near the aircraft without 1000 hours, they all cried "insurance requirements". What do the insurers reckon about this guy's plan?
And the insurers actually know what they're talking about to be honest, this guy better be a bloody good instructor as well as the other hats he's wearing, or he might well have blood on his hands before too long if that is in fact his plan
I'm already having visions of one of these turkeys doing an ATPL flight test with someone like Graeme Leach in a few years, and getting half their logbook hours ripped up as illegitimate before they've even made it out of the briefing room.
Unless of course you're in the left seat, which is a whole different ball game considering the advert seems to be targeting fresh CPLs and people not even out of training yet. Now unless things have changed a lot in NZ, it used to be nigh impossible to even get your hands on a PA31 unless you had over 1000 hours TT, I vaguely remember back when I was about a 500 hour "C" cat and I rang around the whole north island trying to rent one for a private flight with a bunch of my mates down to Queenstown, nobody would even consider letting me near the aircraft without 1000 hours, they all cried "insurance requirements". What do the insurers reckon about this guy's plan?
And the insurers actually know what they're talking about to be honest, this guy better be a bloody good instructor as well as the other hats he's wearing, or he might well have blood on his hands before too long if that is in fact his plan
You can log COPILOT time in any aircraft that you are a COPILOT. This includes a PA31, or even a C152.
In Australia mining companies require two crew operations in the said aircraft.
I'm sure COPILOT time will be laughed at in a C152, but it still counts after being divided by two towards your Grand Total
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In Australia mining companies require two crew operations in the said aircraft.
I'm sure COPILOT time will be laughed at in a C152, but it still counts after being divided by two towards your Grand Total
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You can log COPILOT time in any aircraft that you are a COPILOT. This includes a PA31, or even a C152.
If it was that simple wouldn't PPL's be splitting the costs in 152's and all logging lots of "co-pilot" time?
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There has always been debate about this in NZ but I seem to remember CAA issuing an opinion on it years ago. I'm pretty sure that to log co-pilot time the aircraft flight manual must specify that it requires two pilots.
Even on an ATO IFR flight with no autopilot that requires two pilots by CAA law, the second pilot cannot log co-pilot as he is essentially just a safety pilot, not a functioning crew member. Think about it, there are no procedures laid down for PF/PNF. Who does what and when?
And I am 100% certain that you cannot log co-pilot time in a 152 in NZ! But hey, give it a go. It might get you over the bar for that airline interview one day. Or possibly get you laughed out of the room. Believe me, they check every entry and will notice.
Even on an ATO IFR flight with no autopilot that requires two pilots by CAA law, the second pilot cannot log co-pilot as he is essentially just a safety pilot, not a functioning crew member. Think about it, there are no procedures laid down for PF/PNF. Who does what and when?
And I am 100% certain that you cannot log co-pilot time in a 152 in NZ! But hey, give it a go. It might get you over the bar for that airline interview one day. Or possibly get you laughed out of the room. Believe me, they check every entry and will notice.
Things are different over here
Just about any mining contract flying pistons now require 2 crew with the Captain of a Navajo having 2000TT with 500 hours multi engine command.
Considering a lot of the ways to build the multi engine command in the first place was mining charter and now this requirement has appeared, it will be interesting to see how pilots will get the command in the first place!
When I had 2000TT and 500MEC I had my eyes on something much bigger than a Navajo, hell I was flying one with less than 1000 hours
Just about any mining contract flying pistons now require 2 crew with the Captain of a Navajo having 2000TT with 500 hours multi engine command.
Considering a lot of the ways to build the multi engine command in the first place was mining charter and now this requirement has appeared, it will be interesting to see how pilots will get the command in the first place!
When I had 2000TT and 500MEC I had my eyes on something much bigger than a Navajo, hell I was flying one with less than 1000 hours
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Will be interesting to see how many people have signed up. Apparently there are 3 spots left - I'm guessing for the non-NZ applicants. There must be some form of carrot to entice people to part with 20k... and I'm guessing it's not RHS in a PA31.