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Old 17th Dec 2009, 14:15
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Apparently lost a donk after departure, all safe and apparently well handled ; had friends on board who said it was a bit dramatic for the uninitiated but they're just wondering what went on.

Anyone any clues?
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Correct.... No 4 eng failed.
Nothing that hasnt happened before.... was very well handled by all concerned....
Uneventful landing....
Just a pax and operational inconvienience now...
She will be back home in a few days with a new donk

Before the QF bashers start... Jet8 freighter also blew a donk out of SIN(no 4 eng) today as well....
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744 or A380?
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Old 17th Dec 2009, 20:38
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"lost a donk", sounds quite careless to me. Perhaps it is under the sofa cushions, that's where things I lose turn up.


I thiink it could be one of those days.
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I have just looked in Section 7 of the QRH and cant find the "Lost Donk" checklist, would it be in Section 0?
Any help would be apreciated, I have a Sim check on the 28th and would hate to be given a "Lost Donk" and not know where to find it in the QRH.
Some checkers can be sneaky!!!!!!
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Apparently lost a donk after departure
Why not use proper English? Or is that not trendy enough for some around here?
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After a brief, albeit thorough search, the donk was found on the right wing. All ok.

Oh, and for JulieFlygal - "The number four engine failed to proceed"

T'was a Rolls after all, one assumes.
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OJQ QF10 #4 failed at approx FL31 SIN-MEL returned to SIN for E/C
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Atlas, I agree, if it was a PW or GE, that would be fine to refer to as a donk! Must be a RB211, not as friendly as the good ol PW.
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Why not use proper English? Or is that not trendy enough for some around here?
It looks like the PC brigade/fun police are here
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Equatorial and Boeing Fixer,

Thanks, reports are that it was very well handled & pax to hotels very quickly. No brickbats, friends just wondering, in fact they seem very impressed with the handling.

JulieFlyGal,

Ok, ... no on second thought I can't be bothered. Not worth it, "Gal"...

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Old 17th Dec 2009, 23:07
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Aviation English is NOT proper English...this is an aviation forum after all...
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Just love the quote from this passenger.

"When he shut the engine off obviously everything was ok,
the plane slowed down a little bit and then he sort of pulled gently and slowly to the left
to get out of the flight path because the plane behind us was only a minute and half behind and still going full speed," he said.


That's gold!
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They also preformed:

"an air turn back" and returned to Singapore.
May as well pick the bones out of it:

Another passenger, Steve Tanoto, described the shock "tongues of fire on the rightmost engine . . . in the middle of the night".
On its return to Singapore, Mr Brady said the plane was directed to its own runway which was lined with fire engines and emergency crews.
"(My business partner and I) both thought something had fallen off the bottom, or the landing gear had come undone," he said.
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Old 18th Dec 2009, 03:35
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Qantas denies reports of jet engine fire

Seems a bit strange that this has been moved to General Aviation & Questions..... would have thought this was the exact stuff suited to the main Aussie Forum

Anyway that aside, I love this bit in the SMH:

Qantas denies reports of jet engine fire
December 18, 2009 - 2:34PM


"According to official reports there was no fire and there was no smoke. What they could have seen might have been a flare from the engine but definitely no fire."
I just think it is great that the PR/Spin person etc thinks that it is more important to talk about fire/no fire.... either way the engine isn't working mate!.

Surely its a bit like saying -" yeah the engine fell off the wing, but thats ok, cause there was no fire".



Caveat for the anal retentive types: And yes I am aware an uncontrollable fire is a different story
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Old 18th Dec 2009, 03:46
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The problem was, the NBR 4 fire went out!
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Old 18th Dec 2009, 04:31
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Some checkers can be sneaky!!!!!!
Some people can be w@nkers.

Please don't tell me you don't understand or ever use Australian slang. Don't try to tell me that you have never heard the word "donk" before.
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Old 18th Dec 2009, 04:42
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Thanks John C, indeed.

Righto - the reason I started this thread using "lost a donk" is because I wanted to keep it reasonably up-beat and vernacular, in the hope of avoiding the usual nothing-to-see-here/why-are-you-beating-this-up flaming.

I have no doubt that the situation was handled professionally and by the book, both in the air and on the ground. I have no issue with that and at no time sought to create a beat-up - hence keeping it as non-serious as I could. I expected those in the know, who wanted to say something, would appreciate this approach and I think I have been vindicated.

I'll try to be more serious next time.
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Old 18th Dec 2009, 05:06
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Talk about going off on a tangent. Julie - why not take your donk and other grammatical discussions to a new thread. Leave this one to talk about the QF incident.



Now back to topic, anyone have any more info on it?
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Old 18th Dec 2009, 19:41
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5th POD

OJD left SYD late last night with a 5th pod for OJQ, a RTB due to a failed crossfeed valve but eventually headed off to SIN with spare engine tucked under its left wing...
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