Class D Zones for Broome & Karratha

[DonC]

Things might be safer with a tower, but I cant see how it will be more efficient without a parallel taxiway ?

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

To those ATCers who are in 'the game' to make a quid....

I wonder if anyone has given any real thought to the accomodation situation / availability (non-availability..??) in KA?

Rentals of $1,600 - $2,000 per WEEK??
Rental Properties for Rent in Karratha, WA - reiwa.com.au

Or, you can buy your own for around $1M.........

BRM ain't quite so bad......

Do ya homework peoples.....

Rotsa Ruck....

[Awol57]

Rental assitance is available at both BRM and KA sufficient to cover the costs you indicate. It's a higher figure at KA due to the higher costs. I guess the trick will be to actually get a place to lease.

[5miles]

7 x ATC: approx all up cost $5m pa

Or $714,286 per ATC

5? x ATC : $3m pa

Or $600,000 per ATC

Exactly which part of your anatomy did you pluck these figures from?

[peuce]

Yes, they are plucks, but they were never purported to be auditable figures.
For some reason, I can't get into the OAR site at the moment, but I remember an OAR quote of around $5m to run the Broome Tower.

My line of reasoning is:

• Staff Recruitment Cost ( they have to come from, or be replaced from somewhere)
• Salaries
• Superannuation & other staff overheads
• Training Costs
• Transport, Annual airfares & Removals
• Remote Allowances
• Equipment
• Upkeep of equipment
• Upkeep of buildings and facilities
• Power & Utilities
• Motor vehicles
• Radio Techs & their costs

The trouble with these standalone and remote units is that you loose the economy of scale.

I'm happy for someone from ASA to put me straight.

[Feather #3]

I just love the "revisionists" who have no corporate knowledge beyond the day they left school!

We have the publicist lady from QF with "What relevance does the Super Constellation have to Qantas" and "The inaugural service to New York, Buenos Aires......[fill in blank space!!]"

Now we have "It will be the first combined facility of its type in Australia"!

There used to be a little red brick building in the middle of an aerodrome called Sydney Kingsford-Smith International Airport which [surprise!] housed ATC and the Fire Service.

Aaaah....the G.O.D.'s

G'day

[Capn Bloggs]

So THAT's why Dick has been so quiet. Been working on his doco. Must have been talking to Bob about the population explosion at the same time as the near explosion over Launy...

Mind you, I tend to agree with him on the first one...

[Chimbu chuckles]

You wouldn't if you explored the issue a bit deeper - he/they would scare the crap out of you.

[Philthy]

There used to be a little red brick building in the middle of an aerodrome called Sydney Kingsford-Smith International Airport which [surprise!] housed ATC and the Fire Service.

And Perth, and...

Oh, the ignorance makes you cry doesn't it F#3?

[Dog One]

Well, D Day approaches. Is it already to go. I notice that I haven't received a Jepp amendment as yet. Have the diagrams of the airspace, and the notams with the frequency's etc.

Wonder how many local aircraft have servicable transponders?

[missy]

Good luck to the ATCs charged with the grand opening, one more sleep!!

[Capn Bloggs]

I notice that I haven't received a Jepp amendment as yet.

It's a bloody disgrace. Word from the KTA refueller is that they are all on the A380 stuck in LAX. They'd be too stingy to do an extra run and get them delivered DHL. Jepp should have it's licence pulled by CASA.

As for the tower, no more fun and games self-separation. Boo Hoo. And keep your eyeballs out for Dikofants floating around in E not talking to anybody.

[Ex FSO GRIFFO]

Aye Aye Cap'n,

You 'little one', you go away.....you 'BIG one', you can come in....ooops there's more than two!! Wot'll I do..??

Just kidding fellas....

G'Day Tim, G'Day Bleachy......and to the other guy as well...

To the tune of 'JAWS' music....Who's that in "E"..above me..??

All the Best Girls and Boys...

[AerocatS2A]

It's a bloody disgrace. Word from the KTA refueller is that they are all on the A380 stuck in LAX

KTA actually has a NOTAM for the delayed Jepp amendment!

C147/10
OPR AND PILOTS ARE ADVISED OF A PROBABLE SHIPMENT DELAY OCCURING
FOR JEPPESEN PRODUCTS ALIGNED TO AIRAC DATE 18 NOVEMBER
(DTG:1011171600).
OPERATIONAL CHANGES AT THIS AERODROME, INCLUDES INTRODUCTION OF A TWR
SERVICE WITH COMPLETE REDESIGN AND RENAMING OF ALL PROCEDURES.
PILOTS WITHOUT CORRECT AND CURRENT DOCUMENTATION MAY
EXPERIENCE DELAYS. COPIES OF ALL NEW PROCEDURES ARE AVAILABLE FROM
AIRSERVICES AUSTRALIA PUBLICATIONS CENTRE AND/OR WEBSITE AT:
HTTP://WWW.AIRSERVICESAUSTRALIA.COM/...ATIONS/AIP.ASP.
FROM 11 120247 TO 11 252330 EST

[Jabawocky]

It's a bloody disgrace. Word from the KTA refueller is that they are all on the A380 stuck in LAX

You must get better one Bloggs....mine come from Germany.

[Icarus2001]

Anyone else up for a class action against Jeppesen for failing to provide the contracted document service for safety critical documents?

[morno]

The story goes that the shipment was to be placed on one of the QF A380's that got cancelled. So the consignment was then placed with UPS. Somewhere, UPS have lost the consignment and I'm guessing therefore didn't give Jeppesen enough time to arrange more.

So, to be fair, I'm not entirely sure it's Jeppesen's fault. Maybe roll the blame onto Airbus, Rolls Royce, Qantas, then UPS, .

morno

[Capn Bloggs]

Anyone else up for a class action against Jeppesen for failing to provide the contracted document service for safety critical documents?

Count me in. Not even a word that they'll be late. Arrogance!

[The Green Goblin]

Count me in, if I can get free Jeppview out of it i'll be happy

[BLUDJA]

day 1

BTW, how did the first day go?