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Old 13th Oct 2009, 22:31
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It was bought up at the regional airline conferance up north recently, I thought you might be across that Frank. I assume airlines like rex who struggle to get pilots would welcome more candidates cuming through the ranks.
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Old 13th Oct 2009, 23:58
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I think the ATPL issue is that there's an anomaly in the minimum requirement of 750 hours needing to be in a "registered" or "recognised" aeroplane. In some overseas countries (Eg UK, NZ) ultralights / microlights are on the national register so are considered as recognised aircraft and the hours count.

So 750 hours in a Kiwi ultralight + 750 RAAus hours would meet the requirement but 1500 hours in RAAus wouldn't.
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with standards of raaus flying equal to that of GA there is no logical reason why you cant fly around in an raaus aircraft working up hours towards an atpl, it is no different to flying around on a PPL working towards your atpl 1500 hours.
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A good way to exclude old corrosion-riddled GA aeroplanes from the 750 kg rule would be to make it valid only for aircraft designed or first flown after a certain date (say 1990?). Existing RA aircraft designs exempted or 'grandfathered' somehow.
Going to 750 kg will allow more robust designs, and that can only be good for RA safety. These aircraft will still have a stall speed limit of 45 knots, so we are not about to see any space-shuttle stuff ripping around frightening the horses.
A lot of existing RA aircraft are really lightly constructed, so it will be interesting to see how well they stand up over a 20 year life-span.
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Old 14th Oct 2009, 03:03
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no logical reason why you cant fly around in an raaus aircraft working up hours towards an atpl,
I am probably wrong, but I thought CPL had to be done in a 120 Kt aeroplane with CSU and Retractable. Are there CSU retractable RA-Aus aeroplanes?

It was bought up at the regional airline conferance up north recently
That must have slipped past my extremely busy social calendar. I was probably just
cuming through the ranks
to the literacy test.
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Im gonna get me commercial when this comes thru and fly an airliner. I asked my cfi and he said i can just do the test in something like a Piper Warrior with a Constant Speed prop as long as it does 120 knots. The Tecnam I fly has lots of instruments to do all this but no AH at the moment.
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this place isn't very friendly like elsewhere if you are referring to me as a troll. My instructor siad there are some jobs where you need only a cpl to fly jets. i will ask him on the weekend.
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wind-up alert
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either a wind up or someone's severly 'damaged'
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 09:40
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Useful payload

Ozbusdriver wrote

Paulg, it is rather simple. Go and do a W&B on any training RAA aircraft. Add two average build occupants @160kg for the two. Four hours of fuel@60kg and add that to the basic weight of a J230 (then look at the AUW of a VH- J430 for comparison) and see how much is left for baggage. Methinks you will be either gutting your occupant or reducing fuel to less than an hour.

I have yet to find a suitable aircraft in RAA that is safe and legal to fly any distance two up with even average bods and no baggage.
Thanks for explaining Ozbusdriver. You are correct about 450kg MTOW aircraft. However what about factory built LSA aircraft, with MTOW of 600kg, and empty weight of about 300kg? An example is A22 Foxbat LS. There are probably others too.
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Are there CSU retractable RA-Aus aeroplanes?
yes there are. and will cruise at over 120 Kts.
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Actually you only need a PPL to fly jet aircraft, it all depends on the owner of the aircraft, purpose for flight, insurer, and number of PAX.
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 22:12
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Actually, Joker, a jet aircraft can be flown on an RAAus certificate if the aircraft in question meets the RAAus requirements - IIRC Quentin Campbell was working on a 95.10 turbojet in the late 90's
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i have done more research and spoken to me instructor last night. He knows a guy who flies little jets from melbourne with a commercial licence. he said something about how because they dont do it on a regular basis that he doesnt need an airliners license. They take political people to parlament in Canberra and stuff like that.

Apparently you cant register a jet as an ultralight in Australia.
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And what has that to do with
CASA says no to 95:55 weight increase for RA-Aus
Except perhaps to prolong a meandering and meaningless mischief by someone posing as a literacy failure to give an impression generalising the RA-Aus.

EDIT to add: I understand the CASA Project Manager, Andrew Ward, has confirmed the 750 weight increase has been denied and it would appear an incrimental increase is under way with 600 Kg now the new limit, 650 Kg for seaplanes.

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Old 16th Oct 2009, 01:11
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but what about....

"Pilot 1: You know what, I wanna fly my Jab allover the country, in IMC, at night and with 20 people in the back...." Onemore.

But what about wanting to fly with a mate "all over Australia", around IMC, dropping into friends and contacts with a viable strip, and with enough weight allowance to carry a change of the necessaries and/or a fuel top-up.
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 01:45
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it would appear an incrimental increase is under way with 600 Kg now the new limit
That would be great news for something that I am currently working on. Any timeframes on is this simply more of a "next step" in the process?
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