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Old 9th Oct 2009, 01:53
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A bit of silliness at YPDN

So I'm sitting here watching a bunch of dudes contracted by DIA rip down our section of the airport security fence, intent on installing a new one.

Why tear it down, I asked one of the gentlemen? Apparently, he said, the angled part of the fence on top which has all the barbed wire attached to it is on backwards. It should hang over the landside area, not airside...so of course the only solution (other than saving time and money welding some new barbed wire in the correct orientation to the existing fence) is to give a bunch of guys without ASICs or escorts the security gate code and allowing them to work both sides of the fence with the security gate wide open for several days.

This on the same day the AFP came and scrutinised my ASIC and the vehicle I was driving airside, not 150m from the aforementioned goings-on. I just hope we get a shiny new security gate out of all this.
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Aerohooligan, Not wanting to get into a debate over the merits of changing the fencing arrangements, however it is possible that a special event zone has been established around the work area removing the need for ASICs or VICs. Certain procedures will have been put in place and not necessarily advertised to all and sundry. Things in security are not always as they appear.

If you observe what you believe to be a breach of any part of the regs, you can report it to the Office of Transport Security [email protected]
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I wasn't aware they could do that, but it makes perfect sense now that you mention it. Cheers, YPJT.
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A man proof fence.

We got such fences in Alice Springs a long time ago.
One evening I prepared for an urgent airmedial flight and when i was ready to go and the nurse was also ready, there was still no doctor.
He eventually arrived, and explained that he did not have the magic numbers to open the door, so after all else failed he climbed over the "man proof" fence.
There was no other way he could have got there.
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no fence is guaranteed to keep someone out who is hell bent on getting in (or out).
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no fence is guaranteed to keep someone out who is hell bent on getting in (or out).
Too true JT. In the HeaviLift compound at at Hagen the raskols were getting over the razor wire infested fences by just chucking some carpet over them.
It became a super highway after that.
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...the raskols were getting over the razor wire infested fences ...
Obviously the razor wire was on the land side, if it were on the air side they would have been stopped......
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Got "pinnged" at APAD on Tuesday for not wearing a high vis vest, by a guy, not wearing a high vis vest. Dont know how he saw me! Prolly end up in Guantuamo Bay

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Used to pull that line at Perth when it first came in
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no fence is guaranteed to keep someone out who is hell bent on getting in (or out).
As locks are made for honest people
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As locks are made for honest people
Lock picking ain't exactly rocket science...

Grabs bolt cutters
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Grabs bolt cutters
Bolt cutters - also know as a universal key!

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And the fully laden truck. Known as the bigger universal key.

It worked on the front gates of HM Gaol Boggo Road in the 1970s.

The 1970's 1 Division Boggo Road Gaol

Fences are for keeping the hoi polloi and stray animals out. They're no good for serious threats no matter how big and strong they are.

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universal key!
A Master key in Darwhine

No glove box without one of these
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Old 10th Oct 2009, 10:42
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Originally Posted by Aerohooligan
Apparently, he said, the angled part of the fence on top which has all the barbed wire attached to it is on backwards. It should hang over the landside area, not airside...
In that case, Essendon Airport has got it around the wrong way as well. This is a pic taken airside.

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Gotta think about it logically. Which why is easier to climb over?
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..Simple..to stop the lunatics from escaping the asylum
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Am told that the installers here were used to erecting security fences to keep the inhabitants IN (read "prisons") and gave no forethought to differences when erecting similar fences to keep intruders OUT. I presume a similar mindset was prevalent in Aussie as well.

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I think they are designed to stop people stealing planes, obviously they won't be able to take the plane back over with them
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haha training wheels, perhaps coles erected that fence as to many grubby unemployed pilots helped themselves to the five fingered discount...
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