CASA's revised GAAP procedures.
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well Dick? Just answer one question without abusing the asker?
Who said that?
I note the lights are off on your other sandpit. Why don't you run along there and stir up some debate with the converted few?
But what does your post, that leaves my questions unanswered, have to do with the issue?
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fence sitter getting off the rails here
So that makes you a Joke?
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So true, a shop steward will always be a shop steward no matter what mountain range they name them selves after.
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However, I fail to understand (call me stupid) how filing a 'difference' then makes you 'compliant.' Regardless of what the FAA says, they cannot be technically compliant if a 'difference' has to be filed.
I agree entirely with your view, but, as the saying goes, "It is what it is".
If you think Australian bureaucracies are illogically opaque --- try dealing with any UN agency, not just ICAO.
I always quote Australia's "differences" to Annex I, for the logging of pilot flight hours, as an example. The relevant Australian regulations are a nonsense, compared to Annex I, and the practices of most countries ---- and Australia, until several FOIs got a bee in their collective bonnets about 20 years ago----BUT ---- Australia is "compliant", because we have filed a difference.
The only net result of this Australian "Compliant difference" is that young Australia pilots get screwed in the international job market, when in competition with their peers from NZ/US/CA/UK/most of Europe etc.
As to who has what authority beyond the 12 (in some cases 3) mile limit, there is no point in getting into a debate, the effects of various international treaties (and not just the Chicago Convention) are really quite clear, to those who have made a study of the matter. Australia continues to (in my opinion quite arrogantly) publish so called prohibited and restricted areas where we have no legal jurisdiction. As a matter of interest, there is a proportion of aviation regulation enacted by the Australian Government that is probably unconstitutional, including some amendments in recent day, but who has the funds to challenge the Government in the High Court.
I have always been impressed with the fact that the US complies strictly with the spirit and the letter of the various treaties in play here, as can be seen by an examination of US Jeppesen high and low level (or even the KLAX or KSFO area) airways charts.
Back to GAAPs ---- Call them "ICAO D", the current clearance practices and procedures are effectively ICAO compliant, file a difference to maintain our present VMC criteria, and Hey!! Presto !!, ICAO compliant D ---- just like the FAA ---- and that settles one of the outstanding findings in the last ICAO audit.
And make all the D towers this ICAO compliant common standard.
Tootle pip!!
PS: I am no double act with Dick, but in these areas I have always agreed with him, and agree with the fact that he continues to try and do something to improve the lot of the aviation sector in Australia, and goodness knows, it needs help.
When Hansard becomes available for last week, have a look at the Minister's rant, because the combined opposition parties disallowed (congratulations to AIPA) a particularly nasty piece of security regulation ---- a strict liability offence for the PIC, for something he can have no control over ---- this is back to the nonsense that was dropped in 2003. This sort of regulation is just not tolerated in regulation generally --- aviation should not be singled out this way.
OZ,
It was reported (by Steve Creedy, I think) about Wednesday this week, so it was early in the week, Reps, they are taking anything up to 10 days before it appears on the web site.
I will also be interested in reading the Senate Hansard of the debate on the dis-allowance motion. Previous Ministers (both Labor and Coalition) have usually withdrawn legislation if they know it is going to be tossed out.
Tootle pip!!
It was reported (by Steve Creedy, I think) about Wednesday this week, so it was early in the week, Reps, they are taking anything up to 10 days before it appears on the web site.
I will also be interested in reading the Senate Hansard of the debate on the dis-allowance motion. Previous Ministers (both Labor and Coalition) have usually withdrawn legislation if they know it is going to be tossed out.
Tootle pip!!
Pilots take controls of cockpit issue: access | The Australian
Folks,
This is the story in the Australian by Steve Creedy.
Tootle pip!!
Folks,
This is the story in the Australian by Steve Creedy.
Tootle pip!!
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Jandakot Revolt
Pressure is now mounting from all GAAP airport users for a case by case review of CASA CEO John McCormick’s “Directive 329/09”, which applies uniform restrictions on all GAAPs regardless of major differences in airspace layout, traffic movements and other key issues.
In the most recent move Jandakot airport users have written to the Director claiming his decision was based on now-discredited advice, without an impact statement or appropriate consultation, battering their businesses and damaging the training industry’s international credibility.
Several independent experts have also criticised the language and the risk analysis methodology and assumptions of the “Ambidji Report” on which the decision was based. Jandakot users say they are now being locked out of meaningful consultation, with local officials refusing to discuss how Class D airspace is to be implemented.
In the most recent move Jandakot airport users have written to the Director claiming his decision was based on now-discredited advice, without an impact statement or appropriate consultation, battering their businesses and damaging the training industry’s international credibility.
Several independent experts have also criticised the language and the risk analysis methodology and assumptions of the “Ambidji Report” on which the decision was based. Jandakot users say they are now being locked out of meaningful consultation, with local officials refusing to discuss how Class D airspace is to be implemented.
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Aircraft for Sale, Plane Sales, Planes for Sale – Aviation Advertiser ? – Online Magazine Jandakot backlash at CASA directive
The directive is doomed anyway, because AsA won't have the ATC's - and CASA still won't tell them what flavour of Class D they want to mandate (ICAO/FAA/hybrid).
And CASA should get some professional statistical advice before they respond in knee-jerk fashion to random events.
How embarrassing for CASA - good point about legal requirement for an impact statement, guess they forgot that in their haste.
And CASA should get some professional statistical advice before they respond in knee-jerk fashion to random events.
How embarrassing for CASA - good point about legal requirement for an impact statement, guess they forgot that in their haste.
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Quite apart from all the other problems with this, what worries me is that one person, whose aviation experience is not relevant to GAAPs, can have the absolute power to enact all these changes with the stroke of a pen and seem not to be answerable to anyone.
I don't know why myself and so many others had to attend meetings where we were told we were not to ask questions on Class D or Ambidji. Why, I wondered, were we there to discuss GAAPs which will seemingly be obsolete in April. All that was discussed there seems to have been ignored by McC and his crew as nothing has changed and no information has been forthcoming. How we are supposed to educate our studes, and pilots doing AFRs, and pilots not due for AFRs for ages in time for the changes is beyond me. Some CASA guys have given thier time to discuss this with me, but they don't seem to be able to shed any light on this.
CASA's best safety resource is those who have many years and thousands of hours in this airspace but we are being completely left out of the decision making process and our concerns ignored and dismissed. I have had a message passed on to me from a CASA rep via a third party that I had better stop discussing this with my peers or else, as apparently I haven't gone to any of the meetings.
I only missed one, and gave my apologies as it was held at YPPH and was short notice, and I had a previous engagement as a CASA delegate to do a flight test on their behalf..
So not only are we being left out of the decision making process, CASA seem to actually want the CFIs and CPs and other experienced GAAP operators to shut up. *Digs out old CRM books and scratches head*
I don't know why myself and so many others had to attend meetings where we were told we were not to ask questions on Class D or Ambidji. Why, I wondered, were we there to discuss GAAPs which will seemingly be obsolete in April. All that was discussed there seems to have been ignored by McC and his crew as nothing has changed and no information has been forthcoming. How we are supposed to educate our studes, and pilots doing AFRs, and pilots not due for AFRs for ages in time for the changes is beyond me. Some CASA guys have given thier time to discuss this with me, but they don't seem to be able to shed any light on this.
CASA's best safety resource is those who have many years and thousands of hours in this airspace but we are being completely left out of the decision making process and our concerns ignored and dismissed. I have had a message passed on to me from a CASA rep via a third party that I had better stop discussing this with my peers or else, as apparently I haven't gone to any of the meetings.
I only missed one, and gave my apologies as it was held at YPPH and was short notice, and I had a previous engagement as a CASA delegate to do a flight test on their behalf..So not only are we being left out of the decision making process, CASA seem to actually want the CFIs and CPs and other experienced GAAP operators to shut up. *Digs out old CRM books and scratches head*
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Merry Christmas to the operators at GAAPs from CASA:
http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...09/casa597.pdf
Unbelievable - some sanity - but why three and half weeks before the increased caps and atc discretion for arrivals and departures can be used?
http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_asset...09/casa597.pdf
Unbelievable - some sanity - but why three and half weeks before the increased caps and atc discretion for arrivals and departures can be used?