FTA Shuts it's Doors
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I'll believe FTA are dead when the planes are sold off and someone else is using their buildings. PB seems to always have some trick up his sleeve.
I'm of the believe things have not been good for a while, and the recent big advertising push is once last shot to attract students are bring in the dollars. PB's cash for comments in the recent Australian Flying is worth a laugh.
Yes Peter, that sounds exactly like the sort of thing a flying training organisation would say. I hope the two year thing is not the sort of spin you are using to bring $$$ through the door.
From the above posts, comments from other pilots and my own observations, things don't look very good at all. Gordon, like him or not, is out of the picture as CFI because of illness. ML is off to CASA, DStJ went and set up his own school (taking a bunch of pilots with him). DStJ leaving and a lack of CFI for AV8 was the reason behind the merger of the two schools. Word on the street is the CFI they want to use from YBCG is only a short term option. CASA won't approve PB as CFI while he is working as an airline pilot.
So the senior pilots have walked, and a number of other instructors have left as well. Oh, but new junior pilots will be attracted to an instructor rating at FTA hypnotised by PB's promises of jets and Cirrus aircraft down the track.
I laugh when their press releases say they are QLD's biggest flying school. A recent visit to YBAF showed a number of dirty, maroon aircraft not moving with long grass under the wings. The refuellers claim they only go through about half the fuel of other schools. Either FTA's pilots are very good at leaning or they are simply not flying.
I'm of the believe things have not been good for a while, and the recent big advertising push is once last shot to attract students are bring in the dollars. PB's cash for comments in the recent Australian Flying is worth a laugh.
Captain Peter Boughen...who is managing director of Flight Training Australia in Brisbane, says now is a very good tome, not a bad time, to be starting training to become an airline pilot.
He admits that this sounds like the sort of thing that flying training organisation would be expected to say, but backs up his views with his experience of international airline consultancy.
"If you start training today it will probably be a minimum of about two years before you reach a stage where the airlines are interested in employing you - and by that time things should have started moving again."
He admits that this sounds like the sort of thing that flying training organisation would be expected to say, but backs up his views with his experience of international airline consultancy.
"If you start training today it will probably be a minimum of about two years before you reach a stage where the airlines are interested in employing you - and by that time things should have started moving again."
From the above posts, comments from other pilots and my own observations, things don't look very good at all. Gordon, like him or not, is out of the picture as CFI because of illness. ML is off to CASA, DStJ went and set up his own school (taking a bunch of pilots with him). DStJ leaving and a lack of CFI for AV8 was the reason behind the merger of the two schools. Word on the street is the CFI they want to use from YBCG is only a short term option. CASA won't approve PB as CFI while he is working as an airline pilot.
So the senior pilots have walked, and a number of other instructors have left as well. Oh, but new junior pilots will be attracted to an instructor rating at FTA hypnotised by PB's promises of jets and Cirrus aircraft down the track.
I laugh when their press releases say they are QLD's biggest flying school. A recent visit to YBAF showed a number of dirty, maroon aircraft not moving with long grass under the wings. The refuellers claim they only go through about half the fuel of other schools. Either FTA's pilots are very good at leaning or they are simply not flying.
Flight One down near Solitair Choppers I think.
They're using Boomerangs, a Bonza and Barons plus a few.
This is in no way an endorsement or defence of PB; the school he is CFI of (2 Wing Air Force Cadets) is a commendable cause and thanks should go to all of the volunteer staff who donate their time and effort towards helping these kids get a start in aviation.
(yeah... I know the military guys are paid but the civvy dudes (and occasional dudettes) aren't.)
They're using Boomerangs, a Bonza and Barons plus a few.
PB is attempting to become CFI of the school whilst taking unpaid leave from QANTAS and the other school he is currently CFI of
(yeah... I know the military guys are paid but the civvy dudes (and occasional dudettes) aren't.)
Did see the two 72RG's at Wide Bay to "fly the flag" so to speak. No training legally until a new CFI is found. Rumour is TP from YBCG will be stepping in.
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website down atm, I think they're about to release their new site..
website down atm, I think they're about to release their new site..
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Maroon tails are back in the air today at YBAF. AOC must have been reinstated.
Last edited by CirrusSR22T; 10th Jul 2009 at 02:24. Reason: Said Red instead of Maroon
Unless they are PPLs and CPLs exercising privileges as per a couple of 172RG's at the Bundy Airshow.
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Can someone please tell me the link between FTA and Flight Ideas. Is FTA to become Flight Ideas under a new AOC with PB as CFI? I also understand they are looking to relocate to Warwick and set up a new college would these be new jobs or offered to FTA current instructors.
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they are looking to relocate to Warwick
They may need a few more lanes on the Cunninhgam.
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Customer Service WHAT Customer Service!
Couldn't agree more with Torque Limit
I experienced the same. Good luck to the 3% of the genuine crew who put in 97% of the work required! Boredom and arrogance never flows uphill!!
I experienced the same. Good luck to the 3% of the genuine crew who put in 97% of the work required!
Boredom and arrogance never flows uphill!!
Can someone please tell me the link between FTA and Flight Ideas. Is FTA to become Flight Ideas under a new AOC with PB as CFI? I also understand they are looking to relocate to Warwick and set up a new college would these be new jobs or offered to FTA current instructors.
Boredom and arrogance never flows uphill!!
Does anyone have contact details for Flight One? And is this where DStJ is CFI atm?
), same as AV8 Aviation (Formerly AV8 Darwin, now not associated with AV8 Bris or Flight Ideas - Name partially retained for customer recognition in DN). CFI is Greg McGovern.Flight One
2/224 Qantas Drive
Archerfield Q 4108
P: (07) 3123 7300
F: (07) 3123 7310
The planes are back and Spirro is on the prowl.
