NAIPS for iPhone
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Uploaded to Apple store, awaiting review.
Initial price will be $7.99 then I'll reduce price and release free versions with less functionality as I write more features in. People who buy now will get all updates free. I have had a long think about this price, and I think its a good balance between allowing it to be affordable to everybody & also the fact that its actually an useful app! (I now use it day to day).
Next planned features will be flight plan submission and SPFIB creation (currently only does SPFIB retrieval).
Thanks to everybody who helped test etc. Also thanks to those guys who helped out with contacting Airservices!
Sorry to those people who couldn't get the beta working on their phones. This wont be a problem with the app store version as its a lot simpler. I dont have the time to recompile the beta version for everybody who has a problem (it takes about 20 minutes to recompile and send out again).
Cheers !
Initial price will be $7.99 then I'll reduce price and release free versions with less functionality as I write more features in. People who buy now will get all updates free. I have had a long think about this price, and I think its a good balance between allowing it to be affordable to everybody & also the fact that its actually an useful app! (I now use it day to day).
Next planned features will be flight plan submission and SPFIB creation (currently only does SPFIB retrieval).
Thanks to everybody who helped test etc. Also thanks to those guys who helped out with contacting Airservices!
Sorry to those people who couldn't get the beta working on their phones. This wont be a problem with the app store version as its a lot simpler. I dont have the time to recompile the beta version for everybody who has a problem (it takes about 20 minutes to recompile and send out again).
Cheers !
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i think $7.99 is good, anything over the $10 mark and i would be looking at other options, and that is, accessing NAIPS through safari and the usual internet access, as i do now.. but for $7.99, then i will probably download it.
remember when selling something that has alternatives, then you cant afford to be overly optimistic about your pricing, especially when the alternative is perceived to be somewhat cheaper... what you are really selling is the convenience.
remember when selling something that has alternatives, then you cant afford to be overly optimistic about your pricing, especially when the alternative is perceived to be somewhat cheaper... what you are really selling is the convenience.
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A few people are having trouble finding it on the app store, as it isn't there yet!
It will be called 'NAIPS'. Apple have to do a quick quality control etc with every app that goes on, which takes time (usually about 1-2 weeks I have been told. So expect it up from about Jul 20th, thats my best guess).
It will be called 'NAIPS'. Apple have to do a quick quality control etc with every app that goes on, which takes time (usually about 1-2 weeks I have been told. So expect it up from about Jul 20th, thats my best guess).
awesome result shags, fantastic news! I have no doubt this app will be a big seller. My apologies for not being able to help more in the beta testing as work and study has held me back...will definately be purchasing once it's made available in the app store 
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Cool thanks guys.
There also seems to be another guy who has released a naips app exactly the same time as me! He is selling it for $2.50 and its called OzPilot. Check it out here:
Ben Trengrove OzPilot NAIPS iPhone Application
Initial looks, it doesn't have all the same functions but might appeal to people with simpler requirements, like location briefing.
It will be awesome if we see a whole bunch of innovation with stuff like this as more apps = more choice and drives people to make better products.
There also seems to be another guy who has released a naips app exactly the same time as me! He is selling it for $2.50 and its called OzPilot. Check it out here:
Ben Trengrove OzPilot NAIPS iPhone Application
Initial looks, it doesn't have all the same functions but might appeal to people with simpler requirements, like location briefing.
It will be awesome if we see a whole bunch of innovation with stuff like this as more apps = more choice and drives people to make better products.
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bit late in but nice work shags. this will be very useful and i think the price is right. i looked at doing this a while back but gave up, glad to see someone put in the time and effort!
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Bit more info on the copyright front if anybody is interested.
Ice TV - The Law Report - 5 May 2009
IceTV Pty Limited v Nine Network Australia Pty Limited [2009] HCA 14 (22 April 2009)
About 3 months ago (22 Apr 09) the High Court issued a ruling with a particularly relevant case of Channel 9 vs IceTV. Its pretty similar to this whole thing.
IceTV won the appeal against the federal court as Channel9 were suing them over using their own TV guide to update the IceTV guide.
If you read the abc interview transcript link above, the law professor talks about the copyright on information:
"Information per se is not protected by copyright, it's only the expression of information which is protected by copyright, and in the view of the High Court, when you've got a situation where the information can really only be expressed in one way, then that means you're effectively not going to have copyright in that information or the expression of it. So for example, it's very hard to say anything other than Channel 9 News is on a 6pm, and so the information and the expression of the information being one and the same, means that there is no copyright protection for that information."
Also......
" Well I think just about any document which is really no more than a bare statement of the relevant facts. So we've already discussed for example the White Pages, where it's just an alphabetical list of names with phone numbers; things like football fixtures, Collingwood against Essenden at the MCG on 25 April, that sort of information. It's very hard to say it any other way, and so if you apply the Ice decision, you're left with the consequence that the AFL really doesn't have any significant copyright in relation to its fixtures. We could take other examples. Maybe public transport timetables, all sorts of things no longer, I think, have copyright protection or any significant copyright protection in this country."
That is from "Mark Davison, professor of law at Monash University and Special Counsel with Knightsbridge Lawyers".
The difficulty for AsA would be convincing the court that Met/Notams are creatively composed, as there is a very clear layout in GEN about the format these need to be in. The Channel 9/IceTV ruling also took into account the effort required by Channel9 to compose their TV guide, but ruled that that still did not contribute to holding creative copyright.
Anyway food for thought as this does not affect me as they have sent me an agreement with a few reasonable caveats. (plus I don't have any inclination of ever having to put this to test in court!).
Ice TV - The Law Report - 5 May 2009
IceTV Pty Limited v Nine Network Australia Pty Limited [2009] HCA 14 (22 April 2009)
About 3 months ago (22 Apr 09) the High Court issued a ruling with a particularly relevant case of Channel 9 vs IceTV. Its pretty similar to this whole thing.
IceTV won the appeal against the federal court as Channel9 were suing them over using their own TV guide to update the IceTV guide.
If you read the abc interview transcript link above, the law professor talks about the copyright on information:
"Information per se is not protected by copyright, it's only the expression of information which is protected by copyright, and in the view of the High Court, when you've got a situation where the information can really only be expressed in one way, then that means you're effectively not going to have copyright in that information or the expression of it. So for example, it's very hard to say anything other than Channel 9 News is on a 6pm, and so the information and the expression of the information being one and the same, means that there is no copyright protection for that information."
Also......
" Well I think just about any document which is really no more than a bare statement of the relevant facts. So we've already discussed for example the White Pages, where it's just an alphabetical list of names with phone numbers; things like football fixtures, Collingwood against Essenden at the MCG on 25 April, that sort of information. It's very hard to say it any other way, and so if you apply the Ice decision, you're left with the consequence that the AFL really doesn't have any significant copyright in relation to its fixtures. We could take other examples. Maybe public transport timetables, all sorts of things no longer, I think, have copyright protection or any significant copyright protection in this country."
That is from "Mark Davison, professor of law at Monash University and Special Counsel with Knightsbridge Lawyers".
The difficulty for AsA would be convincing the court that Met/Notams are creatively composed, as there is a very clear layout in GEN about the format these need to be in. The Channel 9/IceTV ruling also took into account the effort required by Channel9 to compose their TV guide, but ruled that that still did not contribute to holding creative copyright.
Anyway food for thought as this does not affect me as they have sent me an agreement with a few reasonable caveats. (plus I don't have any inclination of ever having to put this to test in court!).
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new website: naips.wordpress.com
Also check out pilotcurrency.wordpress.com if you are interested (something else I wrote for myself).
Also check out pilotcurrency.wordpress.com if you are interested (something else I wrote for myself).
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Cool - NAIPS is "Ready for Sale" according to Apple. I think it appears on the app store within about a day.
Edit: Try this link until then:
iTunes Store
Edit: Try this link until then:
iTunes Store