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Old 13th Jun 2009, 08:13
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Is it just me or does A->B only bring up the departure and destination I can't seem to get any enroute ports to display.....
I have a database full of australian airports as follows:

ICAO ident, lat, long, longest runway length.


It draws a great circle between the two points and gets all runways within x miles (including within an x radius around A and B).

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If your airport doesn't come up, it may not be in my database, which is derived from an older 2006 DAFIF. This is why it should be used with caution, as I find this tool is best for finding diverts I hadn't though of yet, rather than for finding them.
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Sweet as application Shag - I only wish I had have bought my Macbook faster so I could have beat you to it :-)

"redistributed" - I dont think so, although I'm not sure what they mean by this. I can't think of an example.
"republished" - this is what I'm doing, although again, I'm not sure if they mean changing the data. Since its coming straight from their website to your phone in unaltered form, there is no republishing to be done!
"commercially exploited in any other way" - waaay too broad. This covers what I'm doing if I charge money...even if its to recover costs I guess.
I think the fact that you're actually getting the user to put in their own username and password, and that you're not storing anything anywhere, means you're acting very much just like a Browser does in accessing the data.

Mate, I think you're covered. BUT that's just IMHO.

Theoritically I can get the data and use it via a telnet session to port 80 on their server, so any means that uses the published interfaces (i.e. the web site) to access the data is fair game.

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Yeah personally, I agree. To play Mr. plaintiff though, telnet and web browsers are used for other things, where as my app can only be used for the one thing. We'll just have to wait for the response.

I'd like to find out what happened with the guy who did the Sydney train timetable thing and got taken to court though. It would be interesting to see whether his app worked the same way.
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What's the latest Shags?
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I'm just in discussion with AsA at the moment. I'll keep people posted if/when we come to an agreement.
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I'd like to find out what happened with the guy who did the Sydney train timetable thing and got taken to court though. It would be interesting to see whether his app worked the same way.
Expect to see him working for the company that wins the NSW transport data management tender that was closed a few months ago...I know he was offered jobs by most of the bidders during the tender process (his timing was very good - well done on that count :-)
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Where can i get this app to test? sounds great so far.
what about vnc and wac charts working with the gps side of things

keep up the good work

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Hi,

sorry beta testing closed. As for vnc, etc with the gps - that is a separate app.

The person doing that will have the same copyright issues as this though.
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Shagpile,

You are a legend for putting this together. Not sure what if any discussions you have had with ASA but it would seem to my (perhaps naive) view that they should actively support this and perhaps buy it from you so you are not out of pocket and then dist it free just like NAIPS for windows. Either way I would have no problem coughing up a few beer tokens for such an App.

As far as suggestions go, I know a full SPFIB might be too much but what about an SPFIB update. Normally there is not much that changes between sectors and this minimises having to cull TAFs and notams you already have.
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Thanks for the feedback, especially from the beta testers. I've had a play around with different style text views (the web view just doesn't work).

I think my priority will be doing SPFIB first (both submit and update, but probably only single stage). I can see how that would be the most beneficial for people doing the same leg lots of times.
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Got my new 3GS today.

Happy to test for you too.......

Can't get internet tethering to work, or even appear on the phone, pretty annoying.
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Can't get internet tethering to work, or even appear on the phone, pretty annoying.
What carrier are you with?

I am with Telstra NextG and I have got tethering/mms working.

Telstra currently do not offer tethering at this stage.

Optus offer tethering but at an added cost of $10/month.

Reply back with your carrier and I can help you out
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Old 29th Jun 2009, 05:47
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iPhone Coverage - In Rural Australia

FYI guys,

The new and older iPhones are not fully compatable with Optus 3G/HSPDA network. You will have no 3G coverage in rural Australia unless you are in a major regional city like Ballarat or Newcastle. You also may not have 3G coverage in capitals such as Darwin. This can be pretty uncool for GA and regional pilots!!!

If you want maximum 3G coverage for your iPhone go with Telstra.

Pls pass this on to anyone considering a purchase as Optus won't be giving you your money back when you find it doesn't do what you want it to....

P.S. I have absolutely no links or financial interest in the big 'T'. I actually dislike them a lot. But after many, many years in the mobile industry I will admit their Next-G network is pretty schmick!
P.P.S. Specs for new iPhone here: Apple - iPhone - Technical Specifications Note absence of UMTS/HSDPA 900 - that's what Optus are using in the bush.
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Old 29th Jun 2009, 06:48
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Aerolex, couldn't agree more re Telstra NextG. I stuck with Telstra PURELY due to their coverage (loathe them otherwise).
A smart phone without coverage is a DUMB phone !!!!! (or a paper weight).
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Old 29th Jun 2009, 07:10
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The cost seems very prohibitive, currently I spend about $30 a month on my mobile usage, with a iPhone that would be nearer the $100 mark.

How do you guys get around it as I would really like one, but its too expensive - T's $30 plan has very high charges?
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I am on a $79 Telstra NextG Cap

That gives you $450 worth of voice & sms to fixed lines and mobiles

An extra $100 worth of voice calls between Telstra mobiles

I was on a $60 plan on the iPhone but went into a T-Shop last week & successfully swapped over to the $79 cap - just had to pay the 'ETC' (Early Termination Charge) from my old plan/contract as I had a further 14 months to go (was less than $500)

I also spend an extra $10 on a datapack which gives 150mb worth of data.

That combined with internet tethering between my laptop via USB or Bluetooth makes for a versatile on-the-go mobile broadband platform

After owning an iPhone for the last 10 months I would NOT go near any other smartphone ... EVER .... PERIOD. It is just far too good
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 04:18
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I just tested the app on nextG last night airborne.

I got reception 50nm off the coast of Sydney at F160 and managed to download updated weather, although it took a few tries. (I was impressed!)

Over the sydney coastline at F220, I got 5 bars and downloaded the wx in about 3 seconds.
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Old 30th Jun 2009, 04:54
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Guy's

I'd hate to be the bearer of bad (or good) news, but with an Iphone you can open safari, go straight to the airservices pilot briefin website, log in and download whatever you wish to your screen. I use this all the time, I even use the BOM weather radars occasionally enroute If I need to.

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but with an Iphone you can open safari, go straight to the airservices pilot briefin website, log in and download whatever you wish to your screen
You are correct.

However it takes a lot of time, is fiddly, you can't save things and it takes more bandwidth as you have to load the whole site including pictures. You also have to login each time you use it.
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If you're are just using it to update a brief then jotting it by hand on the back of the weather report is my usual practice.

Whatever works, and it's free
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