Foreign AOCs based in Australia
Folks,
All IATA members, which includes almost all the airlines engaged in international airline operations (including non-scheduled) in this part of the world, have passed an IOSA audit, and the IATA deadline and grace period has long since passed, OR;
As a result, a small number of airlines have withdrawn from international operation, and/or IATA membership (mostly African and a couple in the CIS states, others scattered around) and some are limited to only where bilateral agreements permit.
I think you will find that all Australian airlines (down to some quite small one) engaged in international operations, have passed an IOSA audit, whether they are IATA members or not, because a number of national authorities make it a condition of flying to/through their area.
There are some interesting aspects of the EEC and US "rating" systems, Israel has been downgraded to Cat.2 by FAA. That being the case, the FAA consideration of the recent ICAO Australian audit will be interesting.
Tootle pip!!
All IATA members, which includes almost all the airlines engaged in international airline operations (including non-scheduled) in this part of the world, have passed an IOSA audit, and the IATA deadline and grace period has long since passed, OR;
As a result, a small number of airlines have withdrawn from international operation, and/or IATA membership (mostly African and a couple in the CIS states, others scattered around) and some are limited to only where bilateral agreements permit.
I think you will find that all Australian airlines (down to some quite small one) engaged in international operations, have passed an IOSA audit, whether they are IATA members or not, because a number of national authorities make it a condition of flying to/through their area.
There are some interesting aspects of the EEC and US "rating" systems, Israel has been downgraded to Cat.2 by FAA. That being the case, the FAA consideration of the recent ICAO Australian audit will be interesting.
Tootle pip!!
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Sorry for ressurecting this topic after so long but I have to earn a living. Upside is Europe is nice this time of year.
I think the issue here and the one that Feenix has been alluding to is when the Head Office is actually here. Two companies come to mind and I think the questions to be asked are different as the arrangments are different.
Heavylift is clearly an Australian company with its head office in Sydney if I am correct and clearly Australian Based as opposed to a foreign Carrier such as United with an Australian base. Originally a Sierra Leone AOC, now a Phillipino AOC. This arrangement is clearly to circumvent meeting Australian requirements although in the long run this would appear to have been a detrimental move if the squeeling from NL after the demise of Ozjet is anything to go by.
The other arrangement is that of Strategic and Air Luxor. Strategic is clearly an Australian based company. I am not casting doubt on the veracity of the Air Luxor AOC being JAR based however as we know this whole operation is represented as Strategic. In the posting above about problems in the ranks and also the recent problem going into Darwin. Was it Air Luxor talking ... nope just Strategic. Strategic have control. I would assume Air Luxor has a Foreign AOC issued on the basis of the JAA one. The question to be asked is how does this meet the borrowed AOC requirements of CAO 82. Particularlly so now that Strategic have made an application. This hasn't been a temporary arrangement and Strategic should have had an AOC for quite some time.
I would be surprised if CASA have been happy about either of these arrangements but it certianly shows there is something wrong with legislation when these arrangements continue. It is certainly not the intention of the legislation.
I think the issue here and the one that Feenix has been alluding to is when the Head Office is actually here. Two companies come to mind and I think the questions to be asked are different as the arrangments are different.
Heavylift is clearly an Australian company with its head office in Sydney if I am correct and clearly Australian Based as opposed to a foreign Carrier such as United with an Australian base. Originally a Sierra Leone AOC, now a Phillipino AOC. This arrangement is clearly to circumvent meeting Australian requirements although in the long run this would appear to have been a detrimental move if the squeeling from NL after the demise of Ozjet is anything to go by.
The other arrangement is that of Strategic and Air Luxor. Strategic is clearly an Australian based company. I am not casting doubt on the veracity of the Air Luxor AOC being JAR based however as we know this whole operation is represented as Strategic. In the posting above about problems in the ranks and also the recent problem going into Darwin. Was it Air Luxor talking ... nope just Strategic. Strategic have control. I would assume Air Luxor has a Foreign AOC issued on the basis of the JAA one. The question to be asked is how does this meet the borrowed AOC requirements of CAO 82. Particularlly so now that Strategic have made an application. This hasn't been a temporary arrangement and Strategic should have had an AOC for quite some time.
I would be surprised if CASA have been happy about either of these arrangements but it certianly shows there is something wrong with legislation when these arrangements continue. It is certainly not the intention of the legislation.
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AOC or no AOC?
HeavyLift (Transglobal Aiways) continues to operate as usual from BNE. The CASA website however does not list a valid foreign AOC for them. Is this because CASA has forgotten to update their site (quite likely) or is HeavyLift flying without foreign AOC (also not unlikely)?
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Air New Zealand
Hi All,
A general question relating to Air New Zealand.
The CASA website has no AOC listed for Air New Zealand be it a Foreign Aircraft AOC or otherwise? At least not under any name with "Air" or "Zeal" in it.
The only possible reason I can see for this is that ANZ operate to/from Australia as a Designated or SAM airline under the Air Services Agreement (Open Skies) of 2002 and use a NZ AOC with ANZA privileges?
Am I correct?
The NZ CAA website is not as quite as informative as CASA's when it comes to AOCs.
A general question relating to Air New Zealand.
The CASA website has no AOC listed for Air New Zealand be it a Foreign Aircraft AOC or otherwise? At least not under any name with "Air" or "Zeal" in it.
The only possible reason I can see for this is that ANZ operate to/from Australia as a Designated or SAM airline under the Air Services Agreement (Open Skies) of 2002 and use a NZ AOC with ANZA privileges?
Am I correct?
The NZ CAA website is not as quite as informative as CASA's when it comes to AOCs.
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I think you will find that OA, Our Airline, aka Air Nauru has not passed an IOSA audit. It is technically an Australian Airline.
Casa revoked all domestic AOCs held by foreign airlines last year if their aircraft were not VH registered.
Virgin is not an IOSA accredited airline as it is not an IATA member. They are however big enough to sell their own tickets and survive via the internet.
Good on them!
An operator nominates their own head office. This is a requirement on an AOC application and renewal form. It can be a PO box in Greenland for all that CASA cares!
Casa revoked all domestic AOCs held by foreign airlines last year if their aircraft were not VH registered.
Virgin is not an IOSA accredited airline as it is not an IATA member. They are however big enough to sell their own tickets and survive via the internet.
Good on them!
An operator nominates their own head office. This is a requirement on an AOC application and renewal form. It can be a PO box in Greenland for all that CASA cares!
