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Old 23rd May 2009, 13:18
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But wait - there's more. MMV An F27 Models.

I seem to be caught in a little time warp here, but my mate Tony in NZ has come across a bunch of F27-200 series models registered VH-Mike Mike Victor. Ansett red and black livery of course.

I have one of his TN F27 models - TQN and it is magnificent. 13" long and solid. Four others have been delivered very well packed into Aussie and unfortunately one arrived with horizontal stabiliser damage. Some tarmac rockape must have dropped an LD3 on the thing. I am not saying all porters are rockapes, but you know the ones that don't care if you work the deck.

Some of the TN units were TQN and others were TQP so I have asked for a check on regos ot the Ansett units.

The cost is $300.00 per unit, and worth it.

If you would like one of these please give me a yell.

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They would be MacRobertson Miller aircraft, from Western Australia, after Ansett took them over.
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Delivery route: Schiphol-Ciampino-Bahrain-Damascus-Karachi-Delhi-Calcutta-Bangkok-

That should probably be ...Ciampino-Damascus-Bahrain... unless they did a 3 hour diversion. Flew these but can't remember how much fuel they carry. Unlikely they diverted back to DAM with Riyadh, Kuwait, Dammam, Jeddah, Amman available, to name but a few!
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One other minor error airsupport....Port Hedland.
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I should know better by now than to try to help anyone on PPRuNe.

The original post had it like that, I really don't care.
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Aww c'mon mate. Smilies were there to clue you up.

Do I have to send those stickers back to you now?
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Nil defects........

Flew these but can't remember how much fuel they carry.
Yeah...........lots of other PPruNers flew them too. I'm one of them, and I also can't remember the 'finer' details of the F27!

But all's not lost! Goto:

http://www.easa.europa.eu/ws_prod/c/..._All_Marks.pdf

to revive the grey matter re the F27 specs.
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Flew MMV in ANSW
As SUIYA, sez cant remember a blooody thing about them
I see Simmsy got the ferry gig. Onya Gary
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Umm..does anyone operate one in Oz ? (not F50)
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I think the only F27 operating in Oz is EWP - callsign Navy Survey used for ocean survey work.
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Buster,

Sorry Mate.

I was just trying to help EWL identify the aircraft.

Just lately every time you post anything on PPRuNe, even like that trying to help someone, all you get is others picking on your posts.

The details I posted were not written by me, already had one say it was incorrect, so I clarified that, mentioned a similar F27 ferry I did, but cut and pasted details from the other post, hence the wrong spelling again.

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This is the post, with all its faults.

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VH-MMV. Fokker F.27-2135. c/n 10355.


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Entered onto Dutch Aircraft Register as PH-FMB - February 16, 1968

Registered to NV KNV Fokker, Schiphol

First flown as PH-FMB - February 19, 1968

Cancelled from Dutch Aircraft Register - February 29, 1968

Entered onto the Australian Aircraft Register as VH-MMV - March 1, 1968

Departed Schiphol on delivery flight - March 2, 1968

Delivery route: Schiphol-Ciampino-Bahrain-Damascus-Karachi-Delhi-Calcutta-Bangkok-

Singapore-Jakarta-Denpasar-Broome-Perth

Arrived Perth at conclusion of delivery flight - March 8, 1968

Flight crew: Capts S. Goddard, N. Hill, B. Bayley; Navigator W.C. Kennedy; Engineer L. Butcher

Aircraft named 'RMA Victoria' at Port Headland - March 20, 1968

Entered service with M.M.A. - March 1968

Transferred to Ansett Airlines of Australia but continued operations with M.M.A. - June 1, 1969

Aircraft had flown 4,808 hours with 3,274 cycles

Registered to Ansett Transport Industries (Operations) Pty Ltd - September 29, 1969

Operated MMA's last scheduled F.27 service - March 7, 1971

Route: Darwin-Groote Eylandt-Gove-Darwin

Repainted into Ansett's 'Delta' color scheme - September 1971

Temporarily withdrawn from service - May 1976

Leased to Ansett Airlines of South Australia - August 1, 1977 to September 18, 1985

Repainted into Airlines of South Australia 'Piping Shrike' livery - October 1981

Second Fokker to be rolled out in new livery at Melbourne - October 6, 1981

Aircraft named 'Sir Douglas Mawson' at West Beach Airport - March 14, 1982

Returned to Ansett Airlines - September 18, 1985

Leased to Airlines of South Australia - November 9, 1985 to April 11, 1986

Operated final A.S.A. revenue service - Adelaide-Moomba-Adelaide - April 10, 1986

Ferried Adelaide-Melbourne - April 11, 1986

Entered service with Air N.S.W. - April 11, 1986

Operated final Air N.S.W. service - Sydney-Merimbula-Cooma-Sydney (Capt D. Currey) - July 25, 1988

Ferried Sydney-Melbourne for storage - July 30, 1988

Sold to Air U.K. - May 1992

Departed Melboure as AN27 on delivery flight to Norwich, England - May 1, 1992

Ferry route: Melbourne-Alice Springs-Port Headland-Denpasar-Singapore-Bangkok-Calcutta-Delhi-

Karachi-Bahrain-Jeddah-Cairo-Athens-Milano-Norwich

Arrived Norwich at conclusion of delivery flight - May 7, 1992

Flight crew: Capts B. Poole, G.F. Sims; Engineer G. Tym; Loadmaster M. Crowe (Alice Springs only)

Cancelled from Australian Aircraft Register - September 29, 1992

Entered onto Peruvian Aircraft Register as OB-1505 - October 19, 1992

Leased to Expresso Aereo

Aircraft named ' Gral Aliaga'

Departed Norwich on delivery flight - October 29, 1992

Arrived Lima, Peru on conclusion of delivery flight - November 2, 1992

Entered service with Expresso Aereo - November 4, 1992

Withdrawn from use - June 30, 1993

Aircraft had flown 43,706 hours with 44,843 cycles - June 30, 1993

Transferred to Peruvian Coast Guard - May 25, 1994

Utilised for coastal surveillance and tranportation of senior Navy personnel

Equipped to carry 4 stretchers; V.I.P. seating for 8; standard seating for 12

Operated as AB-584 by Servico Aeronaval de la Marina del Peru - April 4, 2003

Current as of 2007
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The 20 ton dog whistle was good fun. I remember the East West guys (I think) had a naming competition and the most popular name for the F27 was the Frugal Liner.

A few of my memories pasted below: (Sorry camera's weren`t very good in those days - and neither was my photography!)







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Nil Defects. That third photo...it looks a bit early in the day for SYD curfew...

airsupport. I can't blame you really but hey...it's me!!
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Nil Defects - the 100 series carried 780 gallons underwing fuelled and 810 overwing.

Some days you had to wingwalk to whack in the last 30 gallons as it was needed and Spud Wjitely the Wynyard refueller refused to get up there as he nearly fell one day.

The 200/600 series was 1110 gallons underwing from memory - but I stand to be corrected on that.

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I quite liked the AN full stop livery, however I always thought that they stuffed up the F27 tail. Never quite fitted IMHO.
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Didn't like the AN livery on Kendall's Metros. Didn't look balanced to me.
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airsupport. I can't blame you really but hey...it's me!!

Yes, and that was why I apologised afterwards.

Just for some time now, almost every time you post anything, there is always someone has to have a go about something, again I am sorry, just lost it that day.

The F27 is still one of my favourite aircraft ever.

I have some photos somewhere from the reverse ferry (back to Europe) of F27 VH-FNR, but it was in ASA colours.
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Many a night spent in FNQ. Luckily with both levers forward.
Hmmm.. anyone remember how to set that radar up?
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Speaking of FNQ

Here is a recent photo of the old girl.



She is still undergoing reassembly at the Queensland Air Museum at Caloundra. Ultimately she will be repainted as VH-FNQ in the Ansett Delta scheme. The airframe is in remarkably good condition and there aren't too many holes in the cockpit. The main problem is engines and props. We've tried all the usual suspects without success so if anyone has a couple of Darts salted away in the shed please let us know. They don't have to be whistlers, we just need something to go twixt firewall and prop (when we find them).

Any photos or stories about VH-FNQ (aka ZK-RTA and VH-WAN) will be most welcome.

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