DC-3s AUCTIONED TODAY
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DC-3s AUCTIONED TODAY
Slattery Auctions
Slattery Auction results. All passed in. Bids went to -
VH-SBL $100,000
VH-DNA $20,000
VH-MIN $25,000
VH-BPN $15,000
VH-PWN $10,000
VH-DNF $25,000
Slattery Auction results. All passed in. Bids went to -
VH-SBL $100,000
VH-DNA $20,000
VH-MIN $25,000
VH-BPN $15,000
VH-PWN $10,000
VH-DNF $25,000
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Un-servicable DC3s are really not worth a great deal apparently.
Thank goodness the auction was in Australia though, I don't think I could have resisted if they were here.
$10 grand bids for a DC3, I could think of a good ground based use for it, a DC3 bach (holiday home, crib, whatever you want to call it) has a certain appeal.
Let's just hope that they don't wind up in a smelter.
Thank goodness the auction was in Australia though, I don't think I could have resisted if they were here.
$10 grand bids for a DC3, I could think of a good ground based use for it, a DC3 bach (holiday home, crib, whatever you want to call it) has a certain appeal.
Let's just hope that they don't wind up in a smelter.
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PA31's went for between $185,000 and $310,000.
Two will remain in Port Macquarie and form part of the resurrection of the good old Johnston Aviation with the new owners, most importantly it will have Jamie and Kevin back at the helm.
A better and brighter future for staff and students ahead!
Two will remain in Port Macquarie and form part of the resurrection of the good old Johnston Aviation with the new owners, most importantly it will have Jamie and Kevin back at the helm.
A better and brighter future for staff and students ahead!
For ten grand John Williamson could have had his song title parked on his front lawn.
$10 grand bids for a DC3, I could think of a good ground based use for it, a DC3 bach (holiday home, crib, whatever you want to call it) has a certain appeal.
I too hope they don't end up as beer cans.
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Firebombers
The DC3's should all be turned into fire bombers. They can carry about two tons??? and that is a lot of fire retardent.
DC3's have been used by the kiwis for spreading superphosphate in hill country.
Maybe we need some kiwis over here to turn them into fire bombers for us.
DC3's have been used by the kiwis for spreading superphosphate in hill country.
Maybe we need some kiwis over here to turn them into fire bombers for us.
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Just to clarify, they were [b][i]passed in[i][b] at 10 grand, so it is likely the reserve was much higher
I'm seriously surprised that nobody would even throw a hat in the ring at that.
Perhaps this auction house needs to work on it's marketing.
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fantome, thank-you for the prices and information.
I can't say that I am thrilled to see such a noble airplane pandered like a worn-out saddle horse.
I can't say that I am thrilled to see such a noble airplane pandered like a worn-out saddle horse.
Right Lotto numbers, I will be giving the auction firm a ring.
Really going to need three, one for TAA, one for Ansett and one for East-West then put them on the airshow circuit.
VH-DNF is not a callsign that I recognise, what was it in a former life?
Really going to need three, one for TAA, one for Ansett and one for East-West then put them on the airshow circuit.
VH-DNF is not a callsign that I recognise, what was it in a former life?
Bushy: DC3 as firebombers - our current SEATS (in Victoria) carry minimum 2,500 litres of retardent - that's 2 and half tonnes (or a bit more, I'd guess the SG of retardent is greater than 1kg/litre). Some carry 3,200 litres. For interest, there's 12 SEATs on the Vict. DSE/ CFA contract for the 08/09 season, with more available through the 'call when needed' register.
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Nice dreams... the reality is, till you get them away from where most of them are parked, you're gonna be paying for them to sit there.
Fire bombers... more like three tons of payload from memory.
Great idea, but of course you've to get past CASA and they don't want 'em in the air.
One "expert" from that mob told the owner of a very servicable one, "They should be in a museum, behind glass" while he did as much as he could to ground the lot.
The only hope is the Kiwis... the MOT seem to have some sense our lot lacks.
That Poppa Whiskey November isn't the one John sang about. It changed from CKN to PWN when the original PWN went to NZ and is now back in OZ as CWS.
Long live the old girls.
Fire bombers... more like three tons of payload from memory.
Great idea, but of course you've to get past CASA and they don't want 'em in the air.
One "expert" from that mob told the owner of a very servicable one, "They should be in a museum, behind glass" while he did as much as he could to ground the lot.
The only hope is the Kiwis... the MOT seem to have some sense our lot lacks.
That Poppa Whiskey November isn't the one John sang about. It changed from CKN to PWN when the original PWN went to NZ and is now back in OZ as CWS.
Long live the old girls.
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DC3's have been used by the kiwis for spreading superphosphate in hill country
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The aeroplane was last with the PNGDF. On its delivery flight back to Oz it diverted into Warnervale with engine trouble and there she remains to this day. She was to become VH-DNF but she never made it on to the register. In effect DNF = Did Not Finish. Here's her details:
c/n 16361/33109
44-76777
P2-001
P65-001
A65-100
VHRFQ
Anything you want to know about extant Australasian DC-3s just ask Al (he answers from the grave)
Extant DC-2 and DC-3 Aircraft in Australia and New Zealand
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VH-DNF is not a callsign that I recognise, what was it in a former life?
c/n 16361/33109
44-76777
P2-001
P65-001
A65-100
VHRFQ
Anything you want to know about extant Australasian DC-3s just ask Al (he answers from the grave)
Extant DC-2 and DC-3 Aircraft in Australia and New Zealand
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DC-3 vs SEAT
Alan L is correct; SEATs are far more flexible, reliable and cost effective than DC-3's in the fire bombing role. They are quicker to re-load, can operate in narrower valleys, and offer excellent visibility for the pilot. Additionally the Air Tractor 802 and similar types need far less ground support, shorter and narrower runways, and can be used in other roles when there are no fires.
As much as I love vintage aircraft, and would love to fly a DC-3, firebombng is not in their future.
As a stately way to do a sightseeing trip around the bay, DC-3's are an ideal platform. Let';s just hope that CASA dont follow their European counterparts and legislate them out of the air.
As much as I love vintage aircraft, and would love to fly a DC-3, firebombng is not in their future.
As a stately way to do a sightseeing trip around the bay, DC-3's are an ideal platform. Let';s just hope that CASA dont follow their European counterparts and legislate them out of the air.
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Chieftain for $185000, sounds OK. Wonder if it was the one missing an engine and other items.
$310000 sounds a bit more on the money if they had mid to high times to run on the engines etc.
$310000 sounds a bit more on the money if they had mid to high times to run on the engines etc.
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We need more
Sure the SEATs are great. But I believe the recent fires sent us a message that we need much, much more than we have settled for. Anything we can get should be put to work.
We have to have an effective fire control/prevention system, or stop living in those fire prone places.
We must do lots of research into affordable fire control/prevention, and new house structures and town layouts which may provide some protection. Also, firetrucks with fireproof cabins for the fire fighters. (yes it can be done. And yes it has been tried, and it failed. Do we just quit because it is too hard???)
What we have been doing is now proven to be inadequate.
We have to have an effective fire control/prevention system, or stop living in those fire prone places.
We must do lots of research into affordable fire control/prevention, and new house structures and town layouts which may provide some protection. Also, firetrucks with fireproof cabins for the fire fighters. (yes it can be done. And yes it has been tried, and it failed. Do we just quit because it is too hard???)
What we have been doing is now proven to be inadequate.
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Rather than all that drama and expense bushy why not just kick the greenies in the balls and while they are down do some controlled burning?
Comprehensive controlled burning means manageable fires when they occur...which they will...NOTHING would have slowed down the recent Vic fires to any great extent. Bad as they were however notice those people who had ignored local govt policy (and were fined heavily for so doing) and thinned out the fuel around their homes came through with intact homes?
With the best intentions in the world the day of the DC3 in Australia is over except for the odd joy ride op...and we've seen what CASA thinks of them recently.
Fire fighting in Oz doesn't need a fleet of ponderous 75 yr old airliners it needs common sense and the greenies removed from the process.
Comprehensive controlled burning means manageable fires when they occur...which they will...NOTHING would have slowed down the recent Vic fires to any great extent. Bad as they were however notice those people who had ignored local govt policy (and were fined heavily for so doing) and thinned out the fuel around their homes came through with intact homes?
With the best intentions in the world the day of the DC3 in Australia is over except for the odd joy ride op...and we've seen what CASA thinks of them recently.
Fire fighting in Oz doesn't need a fleet of ponderous 75 yr old airliners it needs common sense and the greenies removed from the process.