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Cool - was genuinely wondering if I'd missed something!
As goes visual nav, you have a requirement to have a positive fix of your position at not less than certain intervals, which in practice means you need to have regular sight of the ground even above 2000 - I believe the guidance is over no more than 4/8ths. If you're signed off to be able to navigate by specific aids (NDB/VOR/DME), you can fix that way, and need not see the ground. You generally do that with the night rating. Although it's perfectly reasonable to get that signed off for regular day VFR it's not normally part of it.
Obviously that doesn't mean you can't use them to supplement visual nav, but not soley.
As goes visual nav, you have a requirement to have a positive fix of your position at not less than certain intervals, which in practice means you need to have regular sight of the ground even above 2000 - I believe the guidance is over no more than 4/8ths. If you're signed off to be able to navigate by specific aids (NDB/VOR/DME), you can fix that way, and need not see the ground. You generally do that with the night rating. Although it's perfectly reasonable to get that signed off for regular day VFR it's not normally part of it.
Obviously that doesn't mean you can't use them to supplement visual nav, but not soley.
Folks,
What I was pointing out to you is that if you are going to do a NVFR rating, try and get the points covered in your training so that when you have a MECIR you have the requirements to operate NVFR on charter operations.
The standard syllabus does not cover you for IR NVFR requirements.
Another option of course is to have multi engine added to your NVFR rating (something I never did)
I recommend the SE NVFR rating, it may save your bacon one day if you get to close to the soup. After completing a NVFR rating you are almost as proficient on the dials as a MECIR pilot without the IFR theoretical knowledge and approach training. (and of course the IF time counts towards your CPL if you do it prior along with your CIR)
Have fun!
What I was pointing out to you is that if you are going to do a NVFR rating, try and get the points covered in your training so that when you have a MECIR you have the requirements to operate NVFR on charter operations.
The standard syllabus does not cover you for IR NVFR requirements.
Another option of course is to have multi engine added to your NVFR rating (something I never did)
I recommend the SE NVFR rating, it may save your bacon one day if you get to close to the soup. After completing a NVFR rating you are almost as proficient on the dials as a MECIR pilot without the IFR theoretical knowledge and approach training. (and of course the IF time counts towards your CPL if you do it prior along with your CIR)
Have fun!
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Tks mark1234 for the info.
And sound explanation from TGG that a NVFR is a stepping stone to CIR for CPL and ME to make it worth while.
Advice from those more experianced than I - is that a NVFR is the bush is more used to depart prior to first light or for completed missions after last light and getting home.
Sounds good to me
And sound explanation from TGG that a NVFR is a stepping stone to CIR for CPL and ME to make it worth while.
Advice from those more experianced than I - is that a NVFR is the bush is more used to depart prior to first light or for completed missions after last light and getting home.
Sounds good to me
