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Old 6th Mar 2009, 05:03
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Night freight article on the Flying magazine

Hi guys, I had a glance at the Flying magazine today and saw an article on night freight pilots.

I am wondering if anyone could shed some light on what the job is like, what sort of experience you need to have and what are some of the operators people can apply?

Thanks for your time and any comment would be much appreciated.
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Old 6th Mar 2009, 20:40
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your spelling sems quite good!
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Yes, and nicely laid out using three short paragraphs
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Go to bed at 10pm. Get up at Midnight sign on by 1am. Get to bed by about 7am and spend the day in a motel.
Sign on at 5pm and get home around 10pm.
That's what we do anyway.
Ya two best friends are your A/H and weather radar cause you don't see too much else.

Not a bad gig though there are worse jobs out there
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Best kept secret in the aviation industry!

Drive to and from work - no traffic on the road. No delay on airways clearance, no delays taxiing due traffic, once airborne, cleared direct everywhere with no speed restrictions. No problem getting desired levels.

No Flight Attendants wanting to know "when are we getting out of this turbulence, we've just started serving!" No problems with complaining passengers.

No STARS just direct 5 mile final. Get home around 5am and sleep for a couple of hours then full day to bank, post office, shop etc,.

Every weekend OFF, every public holiday OFF and Easter / Xmas also OFF!

It's a shame to take the money!
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Thanks

the flying sounds pretty good. Any suggestions what are some of the operators around Australia for these sorts of flying?

Thanks
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3 Holer

Are you one of the guys on the DHL 727?
You keep on getting in my way at Sydney.....
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Lets not talk too much guy's, I think it is the best kept secret in aviation!!
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... practice howling at the moon when flying , always good for a chuckle !

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Capt. It all depends on how many hours you have... so how many hours do you have?

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Cobham (formerly known as) National Jets - pilots fly the Aae (Australian Air Express) freighter 146's to ADL MEL SYD BNE. They work interesting hours, but the airports arent as busy; and like someone said, the roads wouldnt be bad either!
Its very quiet, with just the 2 pilots and no crew or PAX on board. (Unless someone like myself joins them in the jumpseat!)
In saying that too, those pilots have to bring their own food, for late dinner/early breakfast or whatever it is.
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Thanks mik757, the flying is not bad I reckon. Any idea of what sort of hours and qualifications people would need to apply for night freight pilots? I am think the national jet entry would be pretty high standard in terms of hours and qualifications cause they fly jets, what about other smaller operators?

Again, thank you all for the inputs.
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This is Cobhams Line Pilot minimum requirements page.
Cobham (Australia) Recruitment: Attention

Im not too sure about other smaller operators.However, possibly smaller, TOLL is also a well known freighter company. I looks as though they're operated by Jetcraft aviation;
Jetcraft Aviation

Im not sure how many hours you have, but both seem to require high hour pilots. I guess it cant hurt to apply anyways.

I hope that helps.
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Pros:
Lots of time off.
As already stated WRT to being quieter on the roads and in the air. I flew one holding patten in seven years

Cons:
Unusual work hours
Job security not as good
No pax airline perks
3.OOam, mid winter, freight apron in Melbourne. Would you rather be there or home in bed ?

Great job IF you can take the unusual hours.
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I'd be keen if I could find an operator in Sydney that paid decent money, I'm out most nights anyway.

A three holer would be nice...
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Night freight……… the best of times…… the worst of times.

Up and down the east coast in a Queenair, summer and the build ups, winter and the ice praying that you got to Eildon Weir without having to use max power to maintain height and 27 was active.

Then the Metro, well a bit better you could sometimes get over or around it better and the extra speed meant you got home before sun up….well in winter at least.

Europe in a turboprop as well……. You don’t realize how good you had it at home in oz until you see the build up of ice……behind the boots! Cold wet. Cold wet always grey……….

Made you want to go back to the donga in the back of the Ansett freight shed in Melbourne and sleep.

Until the crackle power 727 left for Perth.

Half of what I do now is night freight in a way, back of the clock ferry to somewhere to deliver a plane for someone else.
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In reality. Start at 1700 hours, depart at 1800 hours, land at 0030 hours. Half way there. Drink coffee until 0230 hours and fly till 0600 hours. Get home at 0700 hours and start again at 1700 hours.

The only thing missing is ILS to the minima after 12 hours duty, hand flying the whole time. You don't know what fatigue is until you do a circling approach single engine, limited panel, inverter failure, at night after 9 hours duty.

Oh and an engine fire.

Nah, I just kidding.
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In saying that too, those pilots have to bring their own food, for late dinner/early breakfast or whatever it is.
Actually... onboard catering is provided for the night freighter pilots
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Whatever happened to the Excabilur Queenair VH-XAE that plied the night freight trade on the East Coast?
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I think it's over here now.
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