Too heavy to work

[Howard Hughes]

Don't worry Hempy the BMI tables are slewed against people of all heights! Many years ago, when I went for my police medical they said I needed to get down to between 62+71 kg's!

At the time I weighed 76 kg's with a body fat measurement of less than 7%.

My understanding (told to me by a medico some years ago) is that the tables are from around the 1940's. Try having a look at a news reel with people from that era and imagine trying to look like that today! Even in movies from the 70's people are a completely different body shape.

The exercise crazed 80's and the excesses of the 90's have done much to change the average body shape, just have a look at some young people that you know, they are mostly taller and more muscular than their parents thanks to better nutrition!

Unfortunately with modern calorie laden foods it is also very easy to over indulge!

[flying-spike]

Junior Skypig?

Really...... what a slur on my parentage. I must admit I had never heard that one before but I must just be picky about who I associate with.

[SystemsAreGo]

Overweight?? nah.. I'm just a few meals ahead and a few sh!ts behind

[soseg]

hah this is interesting
ive started power lifting as a side hobby recently and ive just broken 90kg and planning to easily get to 100+ within the next 2 years...

always wondered what employers would think especially in GA with small a/c

would this be a problem regarding instructor jobs? (152s aside)

[inthesoup]

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[capt.cynical]

Systemsarego

Thanks for that, I ROFLMAO

I intend to use your excuse whenever snide remarks are made about my "solid " figure'

5' 10"--102kg's







Has any one seen a healthy vegitarian ?

[who_cares]

I used to be a gym junkie in my early 20s. Im 5'9 and was in the upper scale for my BMI and less than 9% bodyfat.
My doc explained the BMI as an index of how hard your heart has to pump the blood around your body. Thats why obese people and lots of body builders suffer heart attacks.

[AussieNick]

As Who Cares stated, BMI is a great way for people and health professionals to gauge how hard your heart has to work in order to pump blood throughout your body, but it is absolutly useless as a way to gauge if a person is a healthy weight, or indeed overweight or obese. It doesn't take into account the weight of your muscle mass, and as pointed out is biased when used with taller people. You take the avegage AFL player, at their peak fitness and do a BMI test on them and i can guarentee it'll come back obese.

A pinch test is a much more accurate way to determine a persons healthy weight range.

Hell, i'm 192cm, 115kg, run 5 kms 4 times a week and lift weights at the gym for 2 hours 5 nights a week, yet my DAME told me i am obese and need to lose weight, funny, with a BF% of 10....

[Sqwark2000]

Out of interest, in Oz do you use actual weights of pax or standard weights? If you use standard, then your actual weight would not be an issue...

In NZ, we use 1 or the other, never mix. So it was easier to work on standard weights, 77KG for crew, 82kg for pax and 93kg for a sportsteam member. These may have changed since my GA days, I just let the electronic loadsheet prepared by someone else give me the figures. Worked for me, cos when I was in GA I tipped in at 105kg...

S2K

[Ovation]

There is (or was) a certain ATO at Adelaide who might be in trouble.

[tipsy2]

I've worked out how to beat this BMI rubbish, instead of loosing 15 kilos I'm going to grow 2 foot taller.

That'll confuse them

[distracted cockroach]

Good story around Paraparam a few years back was that if a couple of well known flying brothers got into a C152, it was over max weight before any fuel was added!
Maybe a slight exaggeration, but a good story.
BMI is known to be flawed when used for "athletes"....most of the All Blacks, Kiwis, Kangaroos and Wallabies would be classed as either obese, or morbidly obese. Any half-way decent doctor would know this and discount it.
WRT standard weights, Air NZ increased theirs recently....Pacific Islands flights use a higher std weight also. Remember the pax weight includes carry-on bags. Have you seen the stuff some people get away with? Crazy!

[rmcdonal]

Some helicopters have max seat loading that does not allow for the larger individual. Hence if you where over say the 100kg mark it would be illigal to fly them.
I can see how some employers may wish to have a lighter pilot for payload, after all 100-70kg is a 30kg box of goods you could have shipped.
I did some spinning for my Instructor rating a while back, being squished in beside the 100+kg instructor in a 152 was not what I would call enjoyable.

[dhavillandpilot]

Too Fat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For all you guys that thinks you are too fat you should ask any one who trained in Mudgee in the 60's & 70's. The local flying school was run by George Campbell (a real gentleman). The aircvraft type was a Cessna 150 (not even a 152) - George was somewhat rotund at around 20stone (130kgs +) and when he got into the aircraft it always leant to oner side.

You can all imagine this small aircraft taxi-ing out with George on the right and a small dimunitative student on the left. How the aircarft ever got into the air we never imagined - but the one thing was all of Georges students liked him and went on to have illustrious careers.

SO WHO IS TOO FAT????

[Aerodynamisist]

sqwark2000, standard weights here in oz but there is a caap (Civil Aviation Advisory Publication 235-1) recommending use of actual weights for aircraft 7 seats or less.

[Stationair8]

Remind's me of a flight test in a C172 with the late Mr Mark Perret from the then CAA MB office.

Just put me down as 77 kg's on the trim sheet young fella, that will be fine for the purposes of the flight test!!!

RIP Mark.

[VH-XXX]

If you are too heavy you should lose weight.

Other than looking good, feeling good an picking up hot(ter) women, you will probably live longer and place less strain on our already fledging public and private health systems.

Losing weight is not that hard and you will be thankful to yourself for it afterwards.

[glekichi]

I once taught an All Black to fly in a C152... And I weighed about the same as the AB (No where near as much muscle though ). That poor little plane.

[sms777]

VH-XXX

You may want to come and convince some of my mates to give up smoking(i do not).
It is not that hard, hey...... bwaaaahhhaaahhah.
You better bring your baseball bat.....

[Tmbstory]

Wrong size

I recall years ago, a charter operator at a mining town in Western NSW, who operated Austers, who had a weight limit for prospective employees.

No drama then!

Tmb