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Old 26th Jan 2009, 08:10
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Maxgrad, should have worded that better, I was referring to the aircraft only. I don't know any of the staff to be able to make a comment on them.

betaman, I'd still stick with small, , 16% isn't exactly big is it?

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Old 26th Jan 2009, 08:36
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Morno,

Yep $6 million is not much when you say it fast & it is given to you tax free.

Almost buy a new B200, minus an engine or PC12 with paint

P.S. If you guys don't need it why not donate said monies to NTAMS, probably double their budget
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Old 26th Jan 2009, 09:02
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Thought that was the case just wanted clarification.

Would be nice to see any new a/c! Prefer two donks but hey thats just me
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 05:30
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Going to cost the NT government a few dollars!
Lets see;

1. 4 B200's or PC-12's plus spares that would come close to $20-25 million,

2. Hangar and office at Darwin $1.5 million a year, can't really see Pearl saying to another operator here use ours, plus Tindal and Gove would be $500,000 a year between the two bases.

3. Pilot wages Minimum 4 in Gove, 4 in Tindal plus a holiday relief and 6 in Darwin and a couple of check and trainers and a chief pilot. At least three or four engineers in Darwin. Remote allowance for the guys at Gove and Tindal.

4. Plus a few administration staff.

All ads up to a few dollars for the Chief Minister to sign off on.
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Old 27th Jan 2009, 10:31
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4X B200's will cost around $40Mill+ to buy & operate & that's providing the the new provider/s have a well set up infrastructure in place already.
Will the Nt Govt have such funds at hand? We shall see:-)
It's a commercial venture, Amann Aviation could even go for it but I doubt it after what the Nt Govt did at the time(makes for very interesting reading that stunt) Anything is possible when the Govt is involved!
As long as the current pilots/support teams are kept dry & warm of a winter time (if that ever happens up there!) then that's all that matters.



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Old 27th Jan 2009, 23:48
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Surely you would lease the aircraft for the duration of the contract, unless those figures are for leasing!
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Old 28th Jan 2009, 03:56
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Maxgrad,

There is much focus on the current aircraft, the problems they pose, and possible solutions to that. Fair enough - but with a perfect fleet, dispatch would still be FAR FROM GUARANTEED.

I strongly believe, the "unreliable" nature (ie. no dispatch) of this service (NTAMS) is also often due to lack of crew - you would have to agree, surely?! I have seen it, and been it myself, and I know I'm certainly not the only one. How many hours of coverage would you estimate are lost every month because there is no crew, due to simple things like sick leave, or delays = overruns + no reserve or other contingency = lost coverage next shift? (And much more - PM to follow shortly)

1) Some of these things are due to management and the terms of the contract - which like the aircraft, always comes back to money. I think it is worth discussing that too, and so I raised it here (again).

2) Some are purely crew related. And as a backdrop to all that, the latest round in the CA discussion is kicking off. What can we possibly say about that?! (I reckon your thoughts would be identical to mine.)

Yes, PM to follow shortly... (Don't wag your bloody finger at me please)

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Old 28th Jan 2009, 04:08
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Betaman,

You are spot on re: the tax-free $6 million. But they won't be giving it away, they do need it... (Without it maybe the RFDS would be clunking along like NTAMS.)

Nice thought you had, but if those $$$ are up for grabs, whatever you do DO NOT GIVE IT TO NTAMS or PEARL!!!

It would simply be wasted, achieving nothing... Better that RFDS use it and at least get some patients to hospital in reasonable time.

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Old 28th Jan 2009, 05:33
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Yeah, only took em four months to get me there. I would have walked if my back wasn't so bad. if I was a local and stubbed my toe I would have been flown out without hesitation. spare 6Mill would buy some nice meals and wine for upper management. why I stopped donating....... I saw where it was going and on the three times it was required by my family we were rejected.
you should see what goes on up here with them.
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Old 28th Jan 2009, 09:12
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Wiz

Dont blame the RFDS.

Generally a Doctor employed by the State or Territory Health Dept is the one who tasks / or does not task the RFDS Crew.
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Old 29th Jan 2009, 02:23
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only took em four months to get me there
Yeah, but you know you were flying with the best.
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