Most popular piston twin in Australia?
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402's used to be the most popular in Australia in terms of number in country, but many of them went home to the states to continue their careers when faced with having wings ripped apart and put together crookedly to comply with unique Australian regulations.
But Australia is unique in every way isn't it.
Whoever rebuilt the wings of VH-ROS fecked it up good and proper!
But Australia is unique in every way isn't it.
Whoever rebuilt the wings of VH-ROS fecked it up good and proper!
402 has been a great workhorse but we are finally trying to replace them.
Had the privilge of flying both the first and last 402C's built, both are still flying.
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Hey UA why whats harsh about the truth?
It flies slower lower and does make more noise than the others.
I agree its a great work horse but you still had to shout to hear yourself think.
It flies slower lower and does make more noise than the others.
I agree its a great work horse but you still had to shout to hear yourself think.
Well 'most noise for least result'? Guess it depends on what you mean by 'result', if you mean a 180kt cruise, fair enough, not so good, but if you're talking lifting a decent payload out of short strips...
I recon, and as you agree, it's a fantastic work horse for what it was designed for, ie 'Island' hopping, (as we used to do in the Orkney's and Shetland Isles) it's hard to beat.
Bless em, they get a bad wrap, but i've got a soft spot for them!
They're only noisey till you eventually go deaf...
I recon, and as you agree, it's a fantastic work horse for what it was designed for, ie 'Island' hopping, (as we used to do in the Orkney's and Shetland Isles) it's hard to beat.
Bless em, they get a bad wrap, but i've got a soft spot for them!
They're only noisey till you eventually go deaf...
Hey UA, the joys of Out Skerries, Fair Isle, Foula, Papa Stour & Fetlar, huh?. Especially when the gales** were around. As much as I dislike flying the BN2, I'm hard pressed to thing of something that could replace it in Shetland.
A short body C208 with the bigger engine *perhaps*. Skerries would be the limiting strip. But try to get the CAA to agree to single engine ops pax. transport ops? No chance.
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A short body C208 with the bigger engine *perhaps*. Skerries would be the limiting strip. But try to get the CAA to agree to single engine ops pax. transport ops? No chance.
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TEMPO 1803/1812 7000 SHRA -SHRAGS BKN014CB PROB30
TEMPO 1803/1812 3000 SHGS SHRASN BKN010CB
BECMG 1803/1806 21033G50KT
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Hmmm, i'd like to see how your Barron, 402 or Chief would go into some of the strips in the PNG Highlands, and even a few in the Straits, (AND carry 9 pax plus bags).
*Cough*
*Cough* Dick Lang? *Cough*
*Cough*
DF.
Strange no-one's mentioned the Aerostar. I used to have many an "arguement" with a mate about the PA60 vs BE55-58. For me the C,D,E55 were the most delightful flying machine. You tended to "wear" as opposed to sit in it, once used to it. Ergonomics! Now thats a different story.
But oh..., the sound of those 520's on take-off!
But oh..., the sound of those 520's on take-off!
I like the Aerostar. Not for short runways though. And compared to the BE55/58 series and others, at least the rear row has a proper, upright seating position instead of sitting with your bum near the floor & your knees near your nipples.
If a light twin was ever in my budget I would probably choose a -600 for my own use.
If a light twin was ever in my budget I would probably choose a -600 for my own use.
'scion' as I said in an earlier post............but or a real mans plane the DH series
Wmk2
p.s....speaking of Aerostars many years ago at TW there was a 601 or was that a 701? Anyway 425 hp a side (might have even been more), 4 blades owned by an ex CX skipper, went like sh1t off a shovel & crzed at VNE, even on one it was slippery, now that's a real plane too
It's demise is another story, not for here.
Wmk2
p.s....speaking of Aerostars many years ago at TW there was a 601 or was that a 701? Anyway 425 hp a side (might have even been more), 4 blades owned by an ex CX skipper, went like sh1t off a shovel & crzed at VNE, even on one it was slippery, now that's a real plane too
It's demise is another story, not for here.
It is the 2000 hrs in my own QueenAir that made me grow hair on my chest. The Navajo's i flew after do not even come close in comfort and reliability.
Once you have mastered the engine management it became the most docile machine to fly with performance Navajo's would envy.
Once you have mastered the engine management it became the most docile machine to fly with performance Navajo's would envy.
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D H Dragon Rapide.
This is still the best twin in the country, ask anyone who has flown one!
This is still the best twin in the country, ask anyone who has flown one!
Walked into the aviation hall in the AWM the other day, for the first time, and with the Mozzie just hanging there I had a most inappropriate reaction
Snatch ol mate, nuthin wrong with having an 'inappropriate reaction' to a good looking twin...if she happens to be accompanied by her equally good looking identical sister!
But i guess that would then be an entirely 'appropriate' reaction?!
Dry humping a Mozzie main wheel like a randy jack russel on the other hand...
But i guess that would then be an entirely 'appropriate' reaction?!
Dry humping a Mozzie main wheel like a randy jack russel on the other hand...
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What was I thinking, Queen Air of course. Big baron, silghtly lower rate of roll, all the wonderful flying manners but with elbow room, and much improved ergonomics. Frontal area of a block of flats though. TAS for the B65, I recall around 165 kts?
Donks were ok, as long as you didn't get too undersquare, and as long as you were properly trained. Definitely the Queen of the skies!
Donks were ok, as long as you didn't get too undersquare, and as long as you were properly trained. Definitely the Queen of the skies!